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Can 30,000 Cameras Help Solve Chicago’s Crime Problem?
The New York Times ^ | 26 May 2018 | Timothy Williams

Posted on 05/26/2018 1:33:10 PM PDT by Theoria

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To: Theoria

No. Not when the cops and judges don’t bother arresting gangstas and sentencing them to the max.


41 posted on 05/26/2018 5:21:37 PM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: arrogantsob

Graft is not a “possibility” it is a done deal. The kick backs on 30,000 cameras can’t be calculated. Mayor Rahm and his boys can’t do a deal with out graft and corruption.


42 posted on 05/26/2018 5:39:22 PM PDT by EC Washington
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To: Theoria

Saying chicago has a crime problem is racist. /s


43 posted on 05/26/2018 5:42:32 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Theoria

All it takes is the will to take crime seriously. Democrats have the will to do the opposite. They’ll get the cameras and use them against law abiding citizens.


44 posted on 05/26/2018 7:21:26 PM PDT by Phillyred
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To: Theoria

Ask London. Supposedly every inch of London is now on camera.


45 posted on 05/26/2018 7:23:10 PM PDT by Yaelle
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46 posted on 05/26/2018 7:25:32 PM PDT by sailor76 ( TRUMP, is still my hero.)
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To: DoodleBob

These cameras would sooner or later be used to document where we go, what church and other organizations we partake in, who we see, and just about every other aspect of our movements and personal life.

Does she attend the PTA?

Did he go to a Republican meeting?

Did he go to church this week?

Is there anything we can blackmail him with?

Hillary Clinton couldn’t ask for more.


47 posted on 05/27/2018 12:07:53 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs..)
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To: sailor76

Exactly! That book...


48 posted on 05/27/2018 12:08:16 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs..)
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To: Theoria

IMO, the thugs will most likely ‘shoot’ then out of operation.


49 posted on 05/27/2018 3:08:18 AM PDT by duckman ( Not tired of winning!)
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To: DoughtyOne
There was a time that book was required reading in many high schools, and the movie was often shown on TV.

Unfortunately, those days are gone.

We now live under surveillance that exceeds what Orwell imagined, but nobody seems to care.

50 posted on 05/27/2018 5:01:38 AM PDT by sailor76 ( TRUMP, is still my hero.)
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To: jazminerose

300,000 CCW would probably help more. Reference the OK story where a guy opened fire and two CCW customers killed him.


51 posted on 05/27/2018 5:11:14 AM PDT by nobamanomore
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To: Theoria

Trying to become England....

It doesn’t work there either.


52 posted on 05/27/2018 6:55:30 AM PDT by Toughluck_freeper
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To: EC Washington

It is “the Chicago Way.” This should not surprise anyone familiar with the city’s history. Politics began in the bars and the leaders were the biggest gamblers and brothel owners in the city.

The absolute worst thing about this city is the control of politics by The Machine the descendant of those earlier bosses.


53 posted on 05/27/2018 12:50:35 PM PDT by arrogantsob (See "Chaos and Mayhem" at Amazon.com)
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To: DoughtyOne

There is no turning back. I just hope they don’t camera Stop Signs, then I would be indigent.


54 posted on 05/27/2018 12:52:26 PM PDT by arrogantsob (See "Chaos and Mayhem" at Amazon.com)
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To: sailor76

It’s not just the surveillance, although I suppose the electronic paper trail is of course surveillance, but I never expected the electronic paper trail to be what it is now. Orwell would certainly have seen it Orwellian. My view when I read the book was a camera every ten feet.


55 posted on 05/27/2018 9:02:38 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs..)
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To: arrogantsob

You and a lot of others.

I don’t think the traffic intersection control cams played out, so there may never be more of them for that kind of traffic control.


56 posted on 05/27/2018 9:05:25 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs..)
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To: DoughtyOne
My view when I read the book was a camera every ten feet.
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We're pretty much there. Walk around any medium to big city in this country and you're under video surveillance. Look around at most intersections and you'll see cameras too.As for your internet viewing history, emails, cell phone conversations, online purchases, it's all permanently recorded and stored. IMO we're way beyond anything that Orwell could have even imagined.

So far this system is only being by the police for solving crimes; yet its mere presence is a threat to liberty. It's ability to be delivered on a sliver platter to any tyrant who gains power in this country should be of concern to us all. Yet it's not.

57 posted on 05/28/2018 7:15:29 PM PDT by sailor76 ( TRUMP, is still my hero.)
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To: sailor76

I agree.

If you really want to view a brain teaser of a concept, I urge you to view “Anon” on Netflix.

It really does take the human tech experience about as far as it can go as long as we’re still functioning in a reality setting, but with super enhanced information age gone off the charts.

I believe it’s a Netflix in-house production. It may or may not take folks more than one viewing to fully grasp what’s going on fully.

There were scenes I backed up and watched again to make sure I was taking it all in.

I’m not pushing this for production value, although it’s very acceptable on that level. I’m just pushing it to expose the concept that is presented in the movie.


58 posted on 05/28/2018 7:29:38 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs..)
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To: DoughtyOne
on Netflix.
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I cancelled last week because of Obama, but I might have a day or two left in my billing period . If I do, I'll watch it, if not I'll have to take your word for it.

59 posted on 05/29/2018 4:53:08 AM PDT by sailor76 ( TRUMP, is still my hero.)
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To: sailor76

While I don’t like what some companies do, I’m not going to cut my nose off to spite my face.

If others think they need to, that’s fine with me. I’m not critical of it.

My lifeline is Netflix, Hulu, and Amazon.com. I’m sure each of them does stuff I really really don’t like. Should I cancel them all?

Again, not trying to be critical of your decision. I understand.


60 posted on 05/29/2018 9:53:02 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs..)
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