Posted on 05/27/2018 6:16:38 AM PDT by Steve Schulin
... The offspring of partying adolescents, specifically those who used THC, may be at increased risk for mental illness and addiction as a result of changes to the epigenome — even if those children are years away from being conceived. The epigenome is a record of molecular imprints of potent experiences, including cannabis exposure, that lead to persistent changes in gene expression and behavior, even across generations. Though the critical studies are only now beginning, many neuroscientists prophesize a social version of Rachel Carson’s “Silent Spring,” in which we learn we’ve burdened our heirs only generations hence.
(Excerpt) Read more at politicsdiscussion.com ...
Same crap we FMS patients get on Hormones and Fibromyalgia. Your first hormone shift is Puberty, and the leg pains/charley horses, clumsiness begin then, dismissed as growing pains. Then at Perimenopause you get a drop in hormones and the real pain and stiffness starts in. Full Menopause and you need a Benzo like Valium to help with the full blown pain. Not a Panic Benzo those don’t work. And it never goes away.
While the drug warriors are seething at the legalization of Marijuana in so many states, and imminently nationwide, I ask them to ALSO consider this fact:
In this year it will be the first year that both California and Nevada residents have been able to grow up to six mature plants, per adult (up to two per household) and keep the proceeds from that grow.
That could easily be 12 pounds of trimmed, mature marijuana buds per growing person.
The nation will be overrun by a tsunami of pot around Thanksgiving time. And there’s not a lot that anyone can do about it.
No marijuana use for those under 65.
ping for later
Very good viewpoint....but drugs dont add much to ones life...a little short term but mentally debilitating pain relief and or euphoria..but long term effects are tooooo much personally and societally. Drug use does expose our human condition (needs, desires, mental disorders)
Interesting post. I am very concerned about the impact of THC and psychotropic meds on young people and what it means for our future. There has been far too little study of the consequences of altering our brain chemistry and future consequences.
The list is lots longer...but thanks for the snippet of info...the public...who spends their spare time on mindless tv...smartphones...being inebriated,...etc.....wont listen. The chickens will come home to roost soon enough.
Researchers have learned that the desire to alter one’s perception of surroundings is innate. Babies scream with delight when thrown in air and caught. They graduate to swing sets and merry-go-rounds, zip lines, skydiving, runner’s highs, fast cars, and drugs.
It’s not going away.
I don’t know about the other states that have legalized, but the government can’t ban it in Colorado. The citizens voted it into the state constitution. Only the citizens can repeal that. 6 years after full legalization, a majority of citizens are still in favor of the decision.
We have tried criminalization and that created the war on drugs bonanza which created enormous financial incentives not to solve the problem.
I have said many times that we are going to discover, first hand, why our ancestors made marijuana (and other drugs) illegal in the first place. While the NORML organization has expounded on ridiculous conspiracy theories, there are fundamental characteristics of marijuana use that were apparent to our ancestors, even without the sophisticated neurological research techniques that we have available today. No doubt, in the society of the 1800s and early 1900s, when they could not support more than a few deadbeats, the societal burden of drug addiction became quickly apparent. These days, when we are able to support a large fraction of non-producers, the societal cost of drug abuse is more hidden. But it is there.
I don’t buy the argument that criminalization doesn’t work, therefore drugs should be legal. No activity has ever been stopped by making it illegal, but making certain activities illegal certainly does help to decrease the incidence of those activities.
For example, most murder is illegal. And the numbers of murders committed illegally is fairly low—fewer than 16,000 in 2016. But murder of the preborn is legal, and almost one million children are murdered legally per year. Thus, in this example, making the activity legal increased its incidence by about 62 fold. The increase is actually far greater, if I compare murder rates of the preborn before and after murdering babies was made legal.
I’m a thankful, legal MMJ patient here in Florida. Cannabis is proving to be effective medicine for me after many years of misery using prescribed pharma drugs that did not work for me.
There is no doubt in my mind kids should not use cannabis. It’s been illegal for kids to use cannabis & should stay that way, IMO.
Adults should have the right to use, have, & grow their own cannabis, IMO if that’s what they wish to do.
“I ... have long considered the federal prohibition of recreational drugs to be both unconstitutional and counterproductive. ... Can we secure the blessings of liberty for our posterity in a future where citizens can’t distinguish between what’s important and what’s not?” [Steve Schulin, post 1]
Which came first: smoking the marijuana, or the libertarian dogma?
Perhaps it doesn’t matter. Both lead to a childish outlook. And children cannot make responsible decisions: that’s why we don’t let them vote, nor decide policy in other ways.
At least, we didn’t used to.
Hi Mom - glad to meet you. Are the post-alcohol prohibition legislators long-gone enough to qualify as our ancestors?
Hi schumann. Some of the Amendments to our Constitution ought to be repealed. I’m especially eager to help that happen for the 16th (because that would abolish the onerous federal income tax), and the 17th (because popular election of Senators has gravely diminished the important role of the States in checking federal overreach). But many of the amendments are fine. You disparage libertarian dogma. Do you disparage the 9th and 10th Amendments as childish too?
Gestational exposure to teratogenic agents prevents normal embryonic development by either disrupting normal gene expression, as with thalidomide, or through tissue damage caused by acute toxicity, as with fetal alcohol syndrome. Children who are born with congenital defects caused by drugs and alcohol still possesses a normal genome and are able to produce developmentally normal offspring. That is because during the epigenome is reset during embryonic development. There are some alterations that are resistant to this reset but there is no evidence that would suggest marijuana related alterations are hereditary.
In fact, the data cited makes it fairly obvious that these problems have a social cause or involve hereditary characteristics that cause antisocial behavior rather than as a result of epigenome alterations caused by antisocial behavior. It is no surprise that teenagers who display extreme antisocial behaviour tend to become adults who display extreme antisocial behaviour. Any children raised by these unstable people have bad outcomes because they are in a situation that doesn’t really have a happy ending.
Now, if they can produce data that demonstrates an adverse impact on the grandchildren of high functioning heavy marijuana users then there might be something to this. But I wouldn’t hold my breath. Marijuana use isn’t new and yet the most important determinant on childhood outcomes remains parental income not parental drug use. The problem is nurture not nature and it is not even a close call.
‘if people want to destroy their brain and act stupid should we spend zillions stopping them?”
I think that is the question we should be asking.
Well I guess that depends on who is obligated to pay their medical bills ...
As soon as you feel any effected from alcohol, such as being "relaxed," you've overcome the body’s natural detoxifying process. So your statement could be considered correct only under some highly strained daffynition of "a lot in a short time."
Marijuana, on the other hand, is not water soluble. Since it is fat soluble, it very quickly goes into fat deposits throughout the body.
Where it's not binding to neuroreceptors, so having no mental effects.
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