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1 posted on 05/30/2018 5:31:36 AM PDT by Kaslin
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“A tenured professor cannot be fired.”
Not true.


2 posted on 05/30/2018 5:42:17 AM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt
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However, if you want to become a top lawyer, doctor, or banker, then college is essential. It had better be the right college, too. Many people know the route: Yale > Harvard Law > Cravath, Swain & Moore; Harvard > Cornell Med School > Mount Sinai; Princeton > Harvard Business School > Goldman Sachs. It’s competitive, but you can make a huge salary if you’re good.


3 posted on 05/30/2018 5:43:16 AM PDT by proxy_user
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Socialist and Cultural Marxist indoctrination above K12 level doesn’t come cheap.


4 posted on 05/30/2018 5:47:19 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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I fully agree! The vast majority of career paths do not require a formal college education! Today, however, even Masters Degrees are becoming so numerous that they convey limited value! My Great-Grandmother only went through the Eighth Grade, yet she taught school for 40 years and read the classics in Greek and Latin, while being fluent in 5 languages! One can easily learn without time spent in "Formal Education"!

In case you are wondering..., she was "Grandfathered In" as a teacher when degrees became required and was regarded as the "Go To" teacher for advice by her peers!

5 posted on 05/30/2018 5:52:24 AM PDT by ExSES (the "bottom-line")
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If you don't have the brain capacity or the drive to absorb the education, then what's the point?
It's like taking too much vitamins, what your body can't use will go right through.

7 posted on 05/30/2018 5:53:08 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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If you plan on working for a Fortune 500-type company, certainly as a young adult with little experience, you will not be considered for an associate-level position without a degree. I don't care what kind of experience you have, or how self-taught you think you might be. Without being matriculated, and with a couple years' worth of schooling under your belt, you will not be able to get an internship with most companies.

I don't know if this is a result of our litigious society, but it seems as though companies want proof of an "educated" individual. Many degrees are relatively meaningless, but they do seem to represent that a person can complete a four-year curriculum, that they can demonstrate the motivation necessary to commit to a longer-term goal and complete it.

There are plenty of other ways into the workforce, and there are lots of opportunities to work in technical or vocational trades. I don't endorse an expensive college education, but one that is commensurate with an expected position and salary. I'm a big advocate of state schools and universities over esoteric, out-of-state schools.

11 posted on 05/30/2018 6:15:55 AM PDT by Lou L (Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
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Most so called degrees are expensive and worthless.

One of our younger relatives with a double engineering degree, decades ago labeled most of the other degrees as Instant Unemployment Degrees or IUD’s.

My wife was a 3 year RN. She was graduated at the top of her class and never had to take boards in the states where she worked. She would show her grades and certificate and immediately was hired. She was boarded in every state we lived in and including California.

She took off about 12 years to be a full time MOM. She thought about getting a BS degree in Nursing here in California. None of her pre med courses at a major college associated with her Top 3 Year Nursing program counted.

So she had to enroll in a year of bs courses like art and other social bs. It would have taken 5-6 years to get a BS degree in Nursing in spite of 10 years of good nursing experience including being one of the pioneer nurses at a premier ICU in the DC area.

I tried to tell her that this BS program was just that. It was an expensive BS program giving jobs to those who couldn’t be nurses to be instructors.

She got to know a good group of 3 year Nurses, who worked as nurses in the local hospital or for Doctors smart enough to
hire them instead of non nurses. They formed a group to discuss what was new in nursing and what was old and should be kept.

She applied to be an office nurse with a new FP in our town, and he hired her.

He realized that she had read more EKGs in 3+ years in the ICU setting than he would have in a life time. She was super with a stethoscope, so he let her set up and do prelim EKG analysis, BP’s naturally and listen to with her stethoscope re any heart abnormalities. He bought her high end stethoscopes and let her select the EKG machines she used.

She worked for him and his group for 35 years until they both retired. She took real nursing courses in lectures and attended lectures at the local hospital and later did CE online.

She and the other 3 year Real Nurses as they called each other, got together often for real nursing discussions.


13 posted on 05/30/2018 6:28:14 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Reality! Deep State owns/controls the DNC, DOJ/FBI/CIA, our media and its fake news/lying mediots!)
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At my alma mater, UMass, the bat-shit crazy feminist fascists have long taken over. They display a huge banner all over at campus, “Hate has no home at UMass!” Then they attack conservatives with spit-flying hate and physical violence. This while tuition has gone from $200 in 1968 to $22,000 today.


14 posted on 05/30/2018 6:31:52 AM PDT by pabianice (LINE)
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My nephew always wanted a physical job/trade so his parents never pushed college even though he was very smart, high SATs, etc. He worked various trades until he found his fit, got a good job in that field, and took a lot of cert classes at community college. Now at 22 he runs his own crew, makes a lot of money, and has an opportunity to start his own business. His friends are just graduating college, and all are working min wage jobs.


17 posted on 05/30/2018 6:37:42 AM PDT by LilFarmer
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"It tells employers that you were smart enough to get through college. "

True enough, but incomplete. It also tells employers that you were persistent enough to stick to a task for an extended time and "get it done"....which is, I think THE main criterion for job success.

19 posted on 05/30/2018 7:30:11 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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If you want to go to Princeton, you don't have to apply. Just move to the town and start attending classes....

This is exactly how Steve Jobs got his college education. He couldn't afford tuition at a Graphic Design college, so he audited the classes for free.

23 posted on 05/30/2018 7:59:44 AM PDT by poconopundit (MAGA... Get the Spirit. Grow your community. Focus on your Life's Work. Empower the Young.)
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The sciences, engineering, some business/economics/computer related can be tied together with learning effective writing are necessary college level courses. Digging deeply into our past has its purpose and is necessary if accurately taught. Social warrior tactics are easily learned by such as Hogg, etc.


24 posted on 05/30/2018 8:01:45 AM PDT by JimSEA
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“In people’s bones, they realize that what really counts is that diploma,”

I believe the Scarecrow found that to be true.


27 posted on 05/30/2018 8:40:43 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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President Obama said, "College graduation has never been more valuable."

Say "Navy Corpseman" in Austrian, you mouthbreathing clown...

32 posted on 05/30/2018 10:11:17 AM PDT by kiryandil (Never pick a fight with an angry beehive)
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Having an education is important because it affects future career possibilities. Higher education builds character and tends to have a person become more responsible as they deal with a lot of issues at the same. That's why I decided to get MBA. I want to get a promotion and applied to Copenhagen Business School. Soon I have MBA admission test. Therefore higher education is really essential if you want to become a professional in your field.
40 posted on 05/31/2018 1:18:08 AM PDT by Muntic0re
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The most hated company in America, Walmart, is facing this problem in so called upper education.

What Walmart will be doing might be the beginning of the end of of our Intellectual Yet Idiots produced by our so called elite universities.

Walmart’s New Education Benefit Puts Cap and Gown Within Reach for Associates

- Greg Foran, CEO of Walmart U.S.
Highlights of the program include:

AFFORDABLE:

Under the program, the associate contribution toward a college degree would be just $1 a day. Walmart will subsidize the cost of tuition, books and fees, eliminating the need for student loan debt and addressing one the biggest hurdles that keep people from returning to college.

In addition, associates can jump start their path to completion by earning college credit for paid training at Walmart Academies. Hundreds of thousands of associates have already undergone skills training equivalent to more than $210 million in college credits. This will save associates both time and money in completing their degree.

RELEVANT:
Walmart selected universities with a specialized focus on serving working adult learners and top outcomes for the working adult demographic. In addition, Walmart is collaborating with these universities to tailor curriculum to relevant skills for jobs and advancement across industries for today and in the future.

ACCESSIBLE:
Working with three universities that include both selective and open-access programs, Walmart provides all associates a place to start. The goal is for all associates who apply for admission to be accepted. These universities have a programmatic dedication to high graduation rates for their students.

SUPPORTED:
From day one, associates will receive support from a Guild Education coach on everything from the application and enrollment process to selecting the appropriate degree. This kind of academic counseling has been shown to help students complete their degree.

Excerpted, go to link below for full story!

https://news.walmart.com/2018/05/30/walmarts-new-education-benefit-puts-cap-and-gown-within-reach-for-associates


53 posted on 06/01/2018 8:56:54 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Trump does what is good for Americans. Then, the world gets their pants in a knot, too bad!)
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