[Empire_of_Liberty]

You are the closest I see.

SS is a crime. It is fraud. It is a Ponzi scheme. The only “fix” is to stop the crime.

About 4b) below, though, you have to be honest. You don’ t get your “ share” of the crime.

I am nearing retirement, but would gladly forgo everything I have put in to see the end if this injustice. It is the root of much evil. Getting rid of it would do much to fix this country.

I don’t care much for people who think they are “owed” payments from this fraud. They are not.

[NorthMountain]

Most folks want to "save" Socialist Insecurity.

I want to abolish it.

[NorthMountain]

Oh, yes ... if possible, the victims of a crime should be made whole (to the extent possible) out of the hides of the criminals.

So, I recommend: every politician who ever voted for the socialist insecurity program be imprisoned for fraud, and his assets seized under RICO to partially indemnify his victims.

[Right Brother]

I don’t care much for people who think they are “owed” payments from this fraud. They are not.

My contributions to this pyramid scheme were not voluntary so, yeah, I want my money back.

[Brian Griffin]

“SS is a crime. It is fraud. It is a Ponzi scheme.”

It’s not a Ponzi scheme.

It is very similar, but unlike a Ponzi scheme it never goes bust because it always has money coming in by force of law.

It’s not a fraud because the fact that overrewarded it early recipients and shortchanges later recipients was to be expected and is well known.

[onona]

I agree.

Abolish Social Security. Find a way.

[TheNext]

SS TAKINGS CLAUSE

The U.S. Constitution has a “takings clause”. Any property taken must be reimbursed. The true working retirees have a legal claim. If takings is not honored, none of the Constitution needs to be and our dictator overlords can set up a nothing Government.

The rest of the people, have no SS claim, like disability, foreigners, and the non working.