Posted on 06/11/2018 1:22:59 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
EVERY. SINGLE. former Catholic I've ever talked to about their RC days have said the EXACT same thing.
I suspect the reason why this applies to Roman Catholic women more than other denominations is simple.
Catholics are taught that suicide is a mortal sin that can lead to damnation, if not repented of before death.
Devout catholic women are likely to believe this and therefore less likely to act on suicide out of fear of damnation.
Other denominations understand that there isn’t a difference between sins of any type. Any sin can separate you from God.
And more importantly, that Christ paid the penalty for all sins for those who entrust themselves to him.
My 2 cents tonight.
I apologize if I triggered you.
Can you ever find a way to forgive me and just let it roll of your back?
Perhaps you should only read caucus threads where you are less likely to be offended or provoked.
May the Peace of Christ Jesus be with you and may the Holy Spirit dispel your confusion and open your eyes to His Truth.
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As the Deacon said in his excellent sermon this past Sunday in my Orthodox parish:
Jesus did not say, "follow me, and I will make you Social Justice Warriors."
Amen!
“This poor man cried and the Lord delivered him out of all his troubles”—Psalm 34:6
That’s my testimony and I’m stickin’ to it!
A sad analogy to suicide would be one's attitude toward abortion. The nearest abortion clinic in my location is in Bristol TN, right on the line between TN and the tail of SW Virginia. They also pull customers from western NC and as far as eastern KY. This is overwhelmingly conservative, Bible-Protestant country.
I am not the Pro Life activist I ought to be --- I'm pretty ashamed of how slack I am--- but the real Pro-Life Prayer Warrior here is a much-admired lady and her 40 Days crew from her non-denom. church. She is a person of very great piety and dedication, and I like her and her dear pastor very much.
Linda told me the most heart-breaking thing is when they encounter a girl on the sidewalk heading into the clinic who says she has accepted Jesus and Jesus understands the pressure she's under, and has forgiven all her sins, including the one she's about to commit that very morning.
Linda and her crew earnestly try to turn them away from ther abortuary and steer them toward a Crisis Pregnancy Center. There are four CPC's in the area, all supported and staffed by heroic Protestant women. But so many of these girls go through with the abortion anyway, bolstered by their muddled consciences which tell them that no Christian is every lost, and Jesus forgives all.
I am not blaming that on Protestantism in general; in fact the Protestants are the backbone of opposition to abortion here in Upper East TN. And of course in highly Catholic places, it's Catholic girls getting the abortions.
But I'm saying that the mentality that one cannot, by choosing a grave sin, ultimately reject God: that's a problem.
I tend to agree. Except… I would lay the blame on the bad teaching that that person experienced in their church.
And of course, a Christian who has had all of their sins – past, present, future – forgiven by Christ, will go to heaven despite their failings.they will be saved. Christ said, “of all the Father gives Me, I will lose none.”
(From memory)
They will be held to account at the Bema Seat.
Of course not! The advent of the “SJW” was about 2,000 years after Jesus’ earthly ministry!!!!
The whole “SJW” meme is totally bogus, and “SJWs” do much harm in the world, while claiming to do good. But our Lord said, “Without Me you can do nothing!” (John 15:5.)
Thank you for your response to my original post.
It is a metaphor.
This an open thread and as such some comments may offend you.
If open threads are too stressful for you, confine yourself to devotional and caucus threads.
Stop the personal attacks couched in concern.
“Jesus is the only answer.”
Amen!!!
You didn’t trigger me.
Except that there's no such thing in Scripture as a *mortal* sin, nor a *venial* sin.
They are categories of sin fabricated by Catholicism with no Scriptural basis.
ALL sin kills and ALL sin has the same solution, forgiveness granted through the atoning work of Christ on the cross and His shed blood because
Hebrews 9:22 Indeed, under the law almost everything is purified with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins.
The ONLY way our hearts are purified is by the blood of Jesus.
What we consider big or small doesn't matter. ALL sin is an affront to God and His holiness and disobedience to Him.
James 2:8-11 If you really fulfill the royal law according to the Scripture, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself,” you are doing well. But if you show partiality, you are committing sin and are convicted by the law as transgressors. For whoever keeps the whole law but fails in one point has become accountable for all of it. For he who said, “Do not commit adultery,” also said, “Do not murder.” If you do not commit adultery but do murder, you have become a transgressor of the law.
This fragment from an ancient manuscript I found under the Vatican may help you...
YE OL' PRIMER ON THE SCRIPTURES AND THE ROMAN DENOMINATION1. If the is no verse of Scripture to support what is taught in Rome, well, God could have done it that way!
2. If there is a verse that *sounds like* something taught in Rome, this is absolute proof.
3. When Scripture disagrees with Rome, remember that Rome outranks the Scripture.
4. Context, rules of language, and structure are deceptions of the enemy when they disagree with Rome.
Sadly, wikpedia shows two schools identified as Roman Catholic related to shootings.
Wow....if only Paul had used your scorecard in Ephesians 6...
Same here OY. Once, I told the priest my real sins, and he started asking embarrassing, probing, personal questions about my more racy sins. I just lied to him, and never told the truth in the confessional again. I don’t know why I even bothered to go to confession after that. Maybe because my dad would get suspicious if I didn’t. Someone could have used my sin meter as a fan. 😁
But prescinding from a discussion of whether sins can be "mortal" (unto death) or "venial" (not unto death)...
The point: say that there is a person who believes that, because he is (as he supposes) "saved," hell is not possible for him; indeed no punishment,whether temporal or eternal, can now befall him. This person may well think he can commit suicide, abortion, or any kind of murder, and face nothing but "You're saved, so it's all good" from a God gone flabby and morally indifferent.
Such persons --- I hope they are rare --- would be MUCH more likely to commit suicide (per the original article here) or abortion (as I reported), because of their presumption that even their future grave sins, no matter what, even apostasy and unrepentance, are 100% pre-forgiven.
This is contradicted by the Scripture which says, "For the one who does wrong will be repaid for his wrong, and there are no exceptions (LINK)
That link takes you to Bible Hub, where you can find, among dozens, a translation that suits you. Whatever the translation, they all say the same thing: "no favoritism," "no partiality," "no exception."
I am NOT saying there is a sin that cannot be forgiven (except the sin against the Holy Spirit.) God can forgive all sin. God's mercy --- Jesus' blood --- is abundant and more than sufficient.
I AM saying that a forgiven sin may still require some measure of temporal punishment as a matter of justice. This is a temporal "consequence" which is not eternal, but at the same time, is not simply dropped by a god gone slack and morally flabby.
God's justice is, as Scripture says, "for ever." Yes, we rejoice in His mercy. It is as sure as His justice.
That interests me. Very sorrowful. When and where?
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