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The German Feminists’ Dilemma (rapes by Muslim immmigrants)
New York Times ^ | June 12, 2018 | Anna Sauerbrey

Posted on 06/13/2018 7:09:42 AM PDT by reaganaut1

Berlin — A brutal murder case has gripped Germany: On June 6 the body of a 14-year-old girl, Susanna Maria Feldmann, was found in Wiesbaden. She had been raped and strangled. Two days later her alleged assailant, Ali Bashar, a 20-year-old asylum seeker from Iraq, was apprehended in Iraqi Kurdistan, where he had fled. He reportedly confessed to the murder.

The case is just the latest in a string of murders and assaults by asylum seekers against women in Germany. In October 2016, Maria Ladenburger, a 19-year-old university student, was raped and killed by an Afghan asylum seeker. In December 2017, Mia Valentin, a 15-year-old girl, was stabbed to death in a drugstore by her ex-boyfriend, an Afghan migrant.

The cases have added fuel to the far right’s fiery anti-immigrant rhetoric. And it has created a dilemma for Germany’s liberal feminists: How can they fight against violence without supporting anti-immigrant resentments? Or to put it even more bluntly: Is it even possible to defend pluralism and women’s rights at the same time in Germany today?

Violence against women committed by immigrant men first became a topic of debate after hundreds of women were sexually harassed and abused by groups of young men, most of whom were immigrants from North African countries, at Cologne’s main train station on New Year’s Eve in 2015. Since then there has been a steady drumbeat of stories, ranging from harassment in the streets to rape and murder, across Germany.

The far right has exploited these cases to support its call to defend Western culture against “Islamization.” Men from “Muslim” societies generally hold negative and denigrating images of women, the far right claims, and these hideous crimes make clear how much of a threat they are to “the Occident” in general and to women in particular.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Germany
KEYWORDS: angelamerkel; europe; europeanunion; feminism; germany; hijrah; muslims; nato; rape; susannafeldman
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To: MortMan

A LOT of these “asylum seekers” end up VACATIONING back in the country they claimed asylum from... with those vacations paid for by the governments that granted them asylum.


21 posted on 06/13/2018 7:43:34 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Number of arrested coup conspirators to date: 1)
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To: reaganaut1

Don’t worry the German feminists will use these statistics to bolster their arguments for abortion on demand at any stage of pregnancy. Thereby making it a legitimate issue and not a concession to the “Far Right” beliefs. That will remove any dilemma and bring attention back to where it belongs.


22 posted on 06/13/2018 7:46:09 AM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: Huskrrrr

> Similar to the Bill Clinton rape dilemma. <

Good observation. Bill’s supporters mixed in a denial of the facts with a robust kill-the-messenger strategy.

We are seeing the same thing in Western Europe today. These Muslim rapists and terrorists are all “lone wolves”. And anyone who tries to connect the obvious dots is a Nazi.


23 posted on 06/13/2018 7:50:32 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: Sa-teef
and addressing the fact that some men newly immigrated from Arab countries hold misogynist views — while stressing this is probably not the key factor that leads to crimes against women

Liberals have turned ignoring the elephant in the room into an art form.

24 posted on 06/13/2018 7:52:47 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: reaganaut1

The dilemma is all in between their ears: that white men aren’t as bad as they thought...but they still can’t stop thinking it. :)


25 posted on 06/13/2018 7:52:58 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: reaganaut1

It’s telling that they are not allowing comments for this article. I imagine they would be pretty damning.


26 posted on 06/13/2018 7:54:56 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: reaganaut1

You wanted them, biytches! You paraded around with signs saying that they are really nice people. You are getting what you deserve. Go visit Malmo Sweden and see what feminist politicians bring you.


27 posted on 06/13/2018 7:55:10 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Liberalism, like insanity, is the denial of reality.)
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To: thoughtomator

https://www.steynonline.com/8700/sea-change

From the comments:

I recently returned from a Danube River cruise and visits to a couple of friends in Germany. Admittedly, prosperous, middle-aged and older, Germans on a riverboat and two retired German Army officers and their wives are not what you’d call a random sample of the population. But they were - to put it mildly - outspokenly uneasy about Muslim immigration. One of my buddies talked about a conversation he had with a young man who was wearing a T-shirt with “Morocco” emblazoned on it - who said what a wonderful country it is and how he goes back to visit twice a year. But he stays in Germany, where he gets a monthly stipend and can spend his time working out at a gym and picking up women. It was enough to make my friend vote AfD, the allegedly neo-Nazi party.


28 posted on 06/13/2018 7:57:26 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: nickedknack

> German women are learning that hairy legs & armpits and bad body odor are no deterrent to Muzzie scumbag goat f***ers. <

When the Soviet Army entered defeated eastern Germany in 1945, many German women used makeup to make it appear like they had smallpox. It was a desperate attempt to avoid rape.

It is beyond bizarre that such techniques might have to be considered again.


29 posted on 06/13/2018 7:59:55 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: Lurker
The solution is obvious. Ban reporting on the crimes and jail anyone who dares to do so.

Worked for England. Kind of.

30 posted on 06/13/2018 8:10:51 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...
Thanks reaganaut1. It would be much less of a problem if the "refugees" targeted German feminists -- the problem would solve itself after a couple of years.

31 posted on 06/13/2018 8:12:06 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: The Toll

“The Far Right has exploited these cases”

To filth like the New York Times everyone who isn’t a communist is the “far right”.


32 posted on 06/13/2018 8:15:16 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Lurker
The solution is obvious. Ban reporting on the crimes and jail anyone who dares to do so.

You quoted the British answer to that question.

33 posted on 06/13/2018 8:16:05 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: reaganaut1

Dilemma? Dilemma? The fact that feminists have a “dilemma” over this shows that their positions are fraudulent and hypocritical.


34 posted on 06/13/2018 8:19:12 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: Bonemaker

> To filth like the New York Times everyone who isn’t a communist is the “far right”. <

it is also worth noting that the New York Times, etc. never uses the term “far left”. It’s never far-left Venezuelan President Maduro, for example. It’s always just Venezuelan President Maduro.


35 posted on 06/13/2018 8:21:13 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: reaganaut1

It’s not just foolish, it’s insane to believe when one allows poisonous snakes inside their house that they won’t get bitten


36 posted on 06/13/2018 8:23:46 AM PDT by drypowder
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To: reaganaut1

The amazing thing here is that the NYT is allowing reporting on the Muslim rape, sexual harassment, and murder problem in Germany caused by Merkel’s “refugees.” You know it’s gotten bad when the left-wing “press” doesn’t even try to cover it up anymore.


37 posted on 06/13/2018 8:29:41 AM PDT by FenwickBabbitt
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To: lastchance

Feminists are fine with rape. They consider all men rapists, except the ones they have emasculated. They will, however, have one hell of a time sissifying the Muzzie hoardes. More likely is the simple truth that extreme male domination reduces feminazis to submissive sex slaves.


38 posted on 06/13/2018 9:10:42 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (Islam is Satan's finest work.)
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To: Louis Foxwell
They will, however, have one hell of a time sissifying the Muzzie hoardes. More likely is the simple truth that extreme male domination reduces feminazis to submissive sex slaves.

Which side should I choose?

39 posted on 06/13/2018 9:15:48 AM PDT by bankwalker (Immigration without assimilation is an invasion.)
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To: reaganaut1
Men from “Muslim” societies generally hold negative and denigrating images of women, the far right claims,

This is just a "far right claim"? More like an absolute fact of their nature.

40 posted on 06/13/2018 9:17:07 AM PDT by zeugma (Power without accountability is fertilizer for tyranny.)
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