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What a Nuclear Attack in New York Would Look Like
New York Magazine ^ | 06-12-2018 | Ferris Jabr etc.

Posted on 06/13/2018 2:14:58 PM PDT by NRx

...But the current state of dread, while entirely understandable, has overshadowed two crucial realities about the threat of a nuclear calamity. First, a nuclear attack on the United States could well come not from the skies but from the streets. Experts warn that it would be relatively easy for terrorists to build an “improvised nuclear bomb” and smuggle it into America. Building a ten-kiloton bomb nearly as destructive as the one dropped on Hiroshima would require little more than some technical expertise and 46 kilograms of highly enriched uranium — a quantity about the size of a bowling ball. The second reality we have failed to understand is what a nuclear detonation and its aftermath would actually look like. In our imaginations, fueled by apocalyptic fictions like The Road and The Day After, the scale and speed of nuclear annihilation seem too vast and horrific to contemplate. If nuclear war is considered “unthinkable,” that is in no small part because of our refusal to think about it with any clarity or specificity. In the long run, the best deterrent to nuclear war may be to understand what a single nuclear bomb is capable of doing to, say, a city like New York — and to accept that the reality would be even worse than our fears.

...When such a bomb explodes, everyone within 100 feet of ground zero is instantaneously reduced to a spray of atoms. There are photos from Hiroshima and Nagasaki showing eerie silhouettes of people cast against a flat surface, such as a wall or floor. These are not, as is sometimes claimed, the remains of vaporized individuals, but rather a kind of morbid nuclear photograph.

(Excerpt) Read more at nymag.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; US: New York
KEYWORDS: terrorism
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To: NRx

Maxine Waters is very worried that a nuke attack on the United States might cause Donald Trump to start a war.

If a nuclear attack against NYC happened, I wonder if the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists would advance the doomsday clock.


21 posted on 06/13/2018 2:40:36 PM PDT by Steely Tom ([Seth Rich] == [the Democrat's John Dean])
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To: bert
To make America America, New York and San Francisco or LA must go

And Chicago, St. Louis, Newark...

22 posted on 06/13/2018 2:42:44 PM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: Billthedrill
Nice timing on the article, fellas.

Maybe they just dusted off an old article from the Reagan years.

23 posted on 06/13/2018 2:45:00 PM PDT by matt1234 (Jan. 20, 2017: the national nightmare ended.)
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To: JimRed

Newark already Lois like it’s been hit.


24 posted on 06/13/2018 2:45:10 PM PDT by Mouton (The MSM is a clear and present danger to the republic.)
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To: NRx

Wow, we are back to the 80’s! Same song and dance from the usual idiots. The parallels between how Reagan and Trump are vilified is so pathetic.


25 posted on 06/13/2018 2:45:25 PM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: Rummyfan

“What would it look like? At least ten million dead I would say. And a clean-up that would take decades.”


Yes to the clean-up. That part of NYC might even be abandoned permanently.

A resounding NO to the 10 million dead. First off, the entire population of NYC (including the outer boroughs) is about 8 million. A 10 KT bomb exploded at ground level in Greenwich Village in Manhattan is way, way too small to do much beyond about 2.5 km - and would produce about 103,000 deaths and about 213,000 injuries. NO effects beyond the island of Manhattan, and you wouldn’t even have windows in the Empire State Building broken.

Check out this site: http://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/ for the details of any sized-bomb in any locality. It ain’t pretty, but it isn’t some all-consuming disaster, either.


26 posted on 06/13/2018 2:46:00 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be f Vanceree." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: bert
To make America America, New York and San Francisco or LA must go

The World Trade Center and the Pentagon, though the leftists would prefer Trump Tower.

27 posted on 06/13/2018 2:47:42 PM PDT by Lonely Bull ("When he is being rude or mean it drives people _away_ from his confession and _towards_ yours.")
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To: shanover

it’s MUCH worse for Trump,much worse,and it started the day he was inaugurated.

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28 posted on 06/13/2018 2:47:49 PM PDT by Mears
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To: Lonely Bull

The UN building———poof !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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29 posted on 06/13/2018 2:49:08 PM PDT by Mears
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To: NRx

A New Dawn
http://www.johnpitre.com/gallery


30 posted on 06/13/2018 2:54:00 PM PDT by Vlad The Inhaler ( Gadsden Purchase 1853: U.S.A. buys 29,670 square miles from Mexico for $337 An Acre)
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To: NRx
What the reaction to a nuclear attack on DC would look like


31 posted on 06/13/2018 2:55:30 PM PDT by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA-SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS-CLOSE ALL MOSQUES-GOD WITH US)
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To: BenLurkin
Is 46 kilograms about 100 pounds? Seems like a lot.

That is a lot, unless these nuclear terrorists are shockingly incompetent. Are they hiring real nuclear physicists and engineers to design their weapon or just Gender Studies majors?

32 posted on 06/13/2018 2:58:24 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: NRx

At the risk of sounding insensitive, xx xxxx, x xxxx xxx’x xxxx (self censored).


33 posted on 06/13/2018 3:04:08 PM PDT by Gator113 ( ~~Trump 2020~~)
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To: EvilCapitalist
I work in the Poconos, and after the Iran deal went through, I half expect to see a mushroom cloud over NYC one day.

You stopped expecting it because obama chilled them out, or why?

34 posted on 06/13/2018 3:06:46 PM PDT by null and void (Have the courage to shine the light of reason in a dark world)
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To: Rurudyne

What you said.


35 posted on 06/13/2018 3:08:06 PM PDT by null and void (Have the courage to shine the light of reason in a dark world)
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To: NRx

Utter nonsense that Trump has brought back the cold war.

If the Left can think back two years, Hillary Clinton, John McCain, Lindsey Graham, and others were advocating open hostility against Russia.

That wasn’t toying with nuclear war? It sure as hell was.

That was under Barack Hussein Obama.

Leave Trump along you mentally challenged idiot sticks.


36 posted on 06/13/2018 3:12:19 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs..)
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To: null and void

I still expect to see it someday.


37 posted on 06/13/2018 3:20:16 PM PDT by EvilCapitalist (It's Ok to be white.)
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To: NRx

“The second reality we have failed to understand is what a nuclear detonation and its aftermath would actually look like. In our imaginations, fueled by apocalyptic fictions like The Road and The Day After, the scale and speed of nuclear annihilation seem too vast and horrific to contemplate. If nuclear war is considered “unthinkable,” that is in no small part because of our refusal to think about it with any clarity or specificity.”


One of my pet peeves is the unwillingness - either because of lack of courage or due to a deliberate attempt to avoid rational consideration of the problem - to consider the actual, scientific facts concerning nuclear weapons and their effects. Such lack of thought is, to say the least, rather unbecoming of members of the species that is at the top of the food chain on this planet - and it got there BECAUSE of its vast intellectual superiority over all other species (well, as a group - there are CERTAINLY exceptions, and most of them vote Democrat). This lack of rational consideration actually prevents the design and implementation of plans to significantly ameliorate the impact of such a horrible event as a nuclear detonation in a city.

HERE are the effects, for any locality, for any size of bomb, for ground- or air-bursts: http://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/

Another interesting site that I found deals with the actual amelioration of the effects of a nuclear blast: https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2008/08/simple-and-affordable-defences-against.html


38 posted on 06/13/2018 3:22:05 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be f Vanceree." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: Charles Martel

One of my favorites...I’ve even been able to work that into a few conversations over the years (though not with anyone named Norm - that’s a bit much to ask). Tanks for the memories....


39 posted on 06/13/2018 3:23:23 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be f Vanceree." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: NRx

I saw the cover photo and hit the back button.

There’s a movie I cannot recall which more-accurately portrays such a vehicle: It’s a facsimile of a police van.

It could also be a school bus...anything but a decrepit vehicle begging for a bored officer to pull it over (ala Timothy McVeigh).


40 posted on 06/13/2018 3:23:39 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus-)
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