Pope: Abortion is 'white glove' equivalent to Nazi crimes

AP ^ | 6/16/2018 | NICOLE WINFIELD

[Mrs. Don-o]

Well yeah, duh, the pope is just a man.

Tell us something new.

[Alas Babylon!]

Benedict is still my Pope.

It’s my belief that the Vatican mafia put this guy Bergoglio in because Benedict was going to expose/oppose them.

He’s like one of those French Popes from the Avignon Papacy, in other words, an imposter.

[buffyt]

The Pope criticizea USA for not allowing more immigration, but look at Italy... Immigrants showed up at Italy and were turned away, and they ended up in Valencia Spain.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/17/world/europe/spain-migrant-ship-italy.html

[buffyt]

And don’t address anyone here on earth as ‘Father,’ for only God in heaven is your spiritual Father.

Matthew 23:9

[Mrs. Don-o]

Thank you very much for those words from the Lord Jesus about calling no man on earth "father." Very appropriate for Father's Day! And it opens up such a brilliant panorama of faithful NT teaching and example.

So a key question for us is, are we going to interpret this by the way the New Testament interprets it? Or are we going to lean on our own personal interpretation?

Do the saints of the NT use the word "father" for anyone on earth, either their natural parent, or as an honorary or customary way of referring to respected men or a spiritual relationship? Let's look.

This is what God's Word says:

Matthew 1:2
Abraham was the father of Isaac, and Isaac the father of Jacob, and Jacob the father of Judah and his brothers

Matthew 4:21
...James son of Zebedee and his brother John, in the boat with their father Zebedee, Matthew 15:4
For God said, ‘Honor your father and your mother,’ and, ‘Whoever speaks evil of father or mother must surely die.’

Mark 15:21
...it was Simon of Cyrene, the father of Alexander and Rufus.

Luke 1:67
Then his father Zechariah was filled with the Holy Spirit...

Luke 2:33
And the child’s father and mother were amazed...

Luke 8:51
...He did not allow anyone to enter with him, except Peter, John, and James, and the child’s father and mother...

Luke 15:20
So he set off and went to his father. But while he was still far off, his father saw him and was filled with compassion; he ran and put his arms around him and kissed him.

Acts 7:2
And Stephen replied: “Brothers and father, listen to me. The God of glory appeared to our father Abraham when he was in Mesopotamia, before he lived in Haran...

Acts 7:4
Then he left the country of the Chaldeans and settled in Haran. After his father died, God had him move from there ...

Acts 7:8
Then he gave him the covenant of circumcision. And so Abraham became the father of Isaac and circumcised him on the eighth day; and Isaac became the father of Jacob, and Jacob of the twelve patriarchs (lit: father rulers)...

Acts 22:1
“Brothers and fathers, listen to the defense that I now make before you.”

Romans 4:16
...Abraham, for he is the father of all of us, as it is written, “I have made you the father of many nations”)...

1 Corinthians 4:15
Indeed, in Christ Jesus I became your father through the gospel.

Ephesians 6:4
And, fathers, do not provoke your children to anger, but bring them up in the discipline and instruction of the Lord.

Philemon 1:10
I am appealing to you for my child, Onesimus, whose father I have become during my imprisonment.

1 John 2:13
I am writing to you, fathers, because you know him who is from the beginning.

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Christians, all through the NT and even to this day, have always understood calling men on earth "father" --- natural fathers, elders, and spiritual fathers ---to be correct, and not offensive to God.

Is this because Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Paul, Stephen, and the rest of tem, were either ignorant of what Jesus said, or dismissicve of His words?

No, it's because they understood that the message was that all fatherhood on earth (like all "teacherhood" and "masterhood") is secondary and subordinate, derives from God who is the only ultimate father, master, and teacher.

You and I need to go to Holy Scripture as our reliable guide on this, rather than a merely human interpretation.

The tagline is Ephesians 3:15

[morphing libertarian]

this surprises me since the church gives communion to unrepentant people who support and fund abortions.

[polymuser]

“The Popester is a fraud. He has an ulterior motive for this.”

Yeah, I agree. Kinda like if the MSM praises Trump for something...watch out!

It’s probably refugees’ and illegal immigrants’ children in his sights...

[Mrs. Don-o]

They're not supposed to. The Apostolic Signatura (Catholic equivalent of Supreme Court) ruled a number of years ago that abortion-supporting politicians as well as other manifest, public, unrepentant accomplices/accessories to this crime, are not to be offered the Most Blessed Sacrament of the Altar.

This is a ruling on the application of Canon 915 and 916.

Abortion-cooperators who come to receive Holy Communion unlawfully, are guilty of sacrilege; as are those --- bishops, priests, deacons --- who give them Communion.

They all need to confess and repent. There's a a sacrament for that, and it's not Holy Communion. Card. Burke, who made this ruling, has since been put out of his office by Pope Francis, but the ruling has never been rescinded.

So there's a whole lot of sacrilege going on.

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks FatherofFive.

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• Former London Convent Now an Abortuary
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[fortes fortuna juvat]

>>Jeez...the Pope was momentarily dispossessed. Too bad it won’t last.<<

Ha Ha! “Dispossessed”! Now that’s good thinking, and quite clever as well.

[fortes fortuna juvat]

>>Yet he was silent when it may have mattered in Ireland. Totally silent.<<

True that, but by opening his yap on the matter he may have made the vote even more lopsided.

[fortes fortuna juvat]

>> I cannot understand why someone who has a platform continuously makes the wrong choices.<<

Satan perfectly understands why you’re having that problem.

[fortes fortuna juvat]

>>Abortion is not a rights issue, it’s a criminal issue.<<

And of course, a moral issue as well in the sense that the perp has a moral duty to either avoid committing the crime OR NOT, depending on the morality of the law itself.

[fortes fortuna juvat]

>>It is a sin to call for somebody’s murder. Even this Pope.<<

It certainly is, assuming that murder is actually what is being advocated.

[fortes fortuna juvat]

>>How in the heck can that happen?<<

THAT is a damn good question. Mine was changed many months ago and I don’t know how to change it.

[fortes fortuna juvat]

>>Thank the good Lord for this clearly moral statement) - pope Francis gets one right , after all (!)<<

After all HE’S GOTTEN WRONG.

[fortes fortuna juvat]

>>Your right there! He reminds me of a crazy old neighbor that comes out his front door, in boxer shorts and old slippers, shouts something incoherent then turns around and shuffles back in. Everyone else in the neighborhood stares for a few seconds, look at each, shrug their shoulders, then go back to what they were doing.<<

WELL DONE!

[fortes fortuna juvat]

>>Do we have a hack problem here? Seriously that is not my tagline. Mine always said “Put every lib/dem in prison like yesterday”<<

My tagline was mysteriously changed many months ago, and it’s not clear to me how to fix it. In any case, the Moderator needs to address this issue and tell us WTF is going on!

[Maskot]

I figured out that the next time you post, change the tagline at that time.

[fortes fortuna juvat]

>>Even a broken clock’s right twice a day. We’re waiting- hopefully- for pope Francis’s second correct statement<<

CLEVER, and so true!