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Why a Flat Tariff on All U.S. Imports Would Work
activist post ^ | 2/27/2011 | ian fletcher

Posted on 06/24/2018 4:45:49 AM PDT by central_va

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To: central_va

None of those are remotely ‘small’, or ‘light-duty’ by historical or world standards.


41 posted on 06/24/2018 6:07:57 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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The reason is that these small/mid sized PU trucks get the same gas mileage as the big ones. Nobody wants the smaller trucks if you get more HP, capacity and the same MPG. Doddge said no to the Dakota because their full sized 1500 eco diesel gets almost 30 mpg highway!


42 posted on 06/24/2018 6:15:26 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: bert

Protectionist are PRO American business and believe in free trade INSIDE THE USA between the 50 states.


43 posted on 06/24/2018 6:16:34 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: bert

Stop making sense.


44 posted on 06/24/2018 6:24:18 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: DoodleDawg

Without also addressing the issue of the EU VAT, EU import of foreign parts, and adminstrative obstruction of US products, I’d say that if all things are equal, then reciprocity is the objective.


45 posted on 06/24/2018 6:28:30 AM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for eir victory.)
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To: central_va

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://fee.org/media/14946/economicsinonelesson.pdf&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwiw4-WAtuzbAhURM6wKHSpyCRoQFghwMBM&usg=AOvVaw04LYiP40TdJxPpLNxGLVoO


46 posted on 06/24/2018 6:37:25 AM PDT by Manuel OKelley
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To: central_va

By having such a narrow minded view, you show your selves to be anti American business. That is a very unpatriotic stand


47 posted on 06/24/2018 6:51:32 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... In August our cities will be burning))
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To: Manuel OKelley
Seems like the rest of the world is protectionist. I guess they didn't get the memo.

So why does the rest of the world almost universally practice protectionism? And name a country with lower average tariff rates than the USA

48 posted on 06/24/2018 7:04:02 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: central_va

I remember when the Japanese tried to put Harley Davidson out of business. Pat Buchanan had his ear. Went against Reagan’s instincts but he went along. Trump is up front about it. Doesn’t need a Buchannan.


49 posted on 06/24/2018 7:21:29 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: central_va

The reason is that these small/mid sized PU trucks get the same gas mileage as the big ones. Nobody wants the smaller trucks if you get more HP, capacity and the same MPG. Doddge said no to the Dakota because their full sized 1500 eco diesel gets almost 30 mpg highway!


Maybe so, but a lot of us don’t want a full-size truck. We have a Dodge Dakota that we pull behind our motorhome. I’d rather not have to tow its full-size big brother RAM.

Also seems like Ford is bringing back the Ranger, so I guess there’s a market after all.


50 posted on 06/24/2018 7:33:09 AM PDT by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: chaosagent

Nobody, least of all American automakers, believes big trucks are the only ones that sell. That’s why they spend millions of dollars per year bribing Congress to keep the 25% truck tariff in place.

Just like any other vehicles, there should be an option for a 190” or less overall length rather than a 212” minimum.


51 posted on 06/24/2018 7:43:07 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: central_va

Apparel industry, semi-skilled labor?

Have you ever turned out a shirt on a sewing machine?

It takes a lot of skill and knowledge to do that.


52 posted on 06/24/2018 7:59:03 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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balderdascious

I see from google that you have tried several times, unsuccessfully, to get the dictionary to add that as a new word to the English lexicon. Perhaps if you provide the definition the Urban Dictionary will pick it up. Or perhaps you were really intending to use the word balderdash.

Anyway, you aren't seriously implying that the pirates had an agenda to merely interrupt American global trading are you?

First off, Sweden had been at war with them since 1800. Jefferson didn't join in the war until 1801, when he assumed office, along with several other European countries. The pirates in the region of Tripoli & Algiers had been at it for centuries, and had sold an estimated 1 - 1.25 million Europeans into slavery for nearly 3 centuries. Their entire agenda was to ransom off American sailors, and later seek tribute, period. I dare say they wanted American traders to come by even more often. Because their motivation had nothing to do with interrupting American global trade. Missing their easy money they went back to their pirate practices in 1815, prompting the 2nd Barbary War.

Again, President Trump is not against trade at all, but he is against our trading partners, and the sycophants here at home who support our trading partners, taking advantage of American generosity. Well the time for that generosity to cease has come. Before we have nothing left of this country. Forgive my patriotism, which in your mind makes me a scoundrel.

Let me ask, are you also supportive of illegal immigration and the eradication of our borders and ultimately our sovereignty? If not, why not? Free traders claim that we should grant them citizenship. Must be because only those who claim patriotism, who are scoundrels, can be for that.

Alan Tonelson on Tariffs interviews:

Do a search for: Alan Tonelson - May 31, 2018 to hear the first interview

Next search for: Allen Tonelson - June 8, 2018 (same person, they just spelled his name wrong here).

This person actually knows what he is talking about.

53 posted on 06/24/2018 8:11:17 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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All that aside, the pirates action was in restraint of trade.

Jefferson found that to be reason enough to go to war to protect American interests.

By the overly broad definitions of globalists used here, Jefferson was in fact a globalist founder.

Balderdacious is used to add emphasis to the concept of drivel

54 posted on 06/24/2018 8:35:26 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... In August our cities will be burning))
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To: xzins

I hate the thought of a flat tariff. Reciprocal trade like Trump is attempting is the way to go. I’m all for free trade like the Adam smith free traders want as long as it is truly free trade. Telling me we have a NAFTA free trade deal that’s just wonderful only to find out that Mexico and Canada charges US business high tariffs and we charge nothing is a mockery of free trade. Still proponents of this lie will tell us what a great deal we got. They either drank the kool aid or like being made fools.

Free and fair, reciprocal trade is the future. No tariffs and true competition.


55 posted on 06/24/2018 8:54:13 AM PDT by sarge83
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To: sarge83

Excellent. Thanks.


56 posted on 06/24/2018 9:11:49 AM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for eir victory.)
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To: central_va

Just a quick thought, but maybe we should have negotiated quotas on different imports. No tax. The biggest problem always seems to be when the market is flooded and our businesses go under. Then the prices are jacked up on the imports. There would have to be a transition. The real answer is to figure out how to outcompete them. That includes the burdon the the Federal, State and local governments put on the businesses in terms of taxes and regulations.


57 posted on 06/24/2018 9:50:13 AM PDT by Revolutionary ("Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition!")
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To: xzins
Without also addressing the issue of the EU VAT, EU import of foreign parts, and adminstrative obstruction of US products, I’d say that if all things are equal, then reciprocity is the objective.

Detroit is not going to like losing the tariff on trucks. It might be politically risky, but no more risky than what the results of a 30% tax on every imported item would be.

58 posted on 06/24/2018 10:26:22 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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De industrialization is pretty risky too.


59 posted on 06/24/2018 10:27:20 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: central_va
I am in favor of the tariff. Raise it higher.

I am well aware of your position on tariffs. Something we will have to agree to disagree on.

60 posted on 06/24/2018 10:27:41 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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