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What Should America Expect from a More Originalist Supreme Court?
NRO ^ | 28 June 2018 | David French

Posted on 06/28/2018 9:33:58 PM PDT by lowbuck

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To: lowbuck

I think this will make Chief Justice Roberts the swing vote. For example, no one ever understood his reasoning on Obama Care.


21 posted on 06/29/2018 2:29:09 AM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, Democrats believe every day is April 15th.)
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To: lowbuck
“There’s the law, and then there’s what’s right. My job is to do what’s right.”

There have been a few here who also think that the Constitution has a "noble Cause" clause when it suits their sensibilities - the problem is that this type thought is exactly why we have drifted so far from being in line with the Constitution - there's about 360 million opinions about what is "right" for any situation......

22 posted on 06/29/2018 3:30:27 AM PDT by trebb (Too many "Conservatives" who think their opinions outweigh reality these days...)
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To: Equine1952
Good read. Things to ponder and speculate on. We need another Scalia. Hope DJT can get very close.

Scalia wasn't too bad. Another Thomas would be much better.

Scalia wrote Raich, which legitimized all Federal power via the Commerce Clause.

The case was completely insane. With a little luck, a Constitutionalist, Originalist, Texualist, court will reverse Raich and start trimming away at the insane way the Commerce Clause has been used.

Raich held that people growing marijuana in their own home, for their own use, were subject to federal drug laws, because they would not be buying marijuana on the black market, thus affecting interstate commerce.

Explain what the federal government does not regulate, under that doctrine.

23 posted on 06/29/2018 3:43:21 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: Equine1952

While I don’t doubt the Left will try and pull that, it’s a very different time, with new media available to us. I don’t think it will work well for them at all.


24 posted on 06/29/2018 3:47:13 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: lowbuck

“Enjoy the read.”

Nope. French would rather Hillary be picking the next few Justices. He came right out and said so.

Screw him.

L


25 posted on 06/29/2018 3:49:51 AM PDT by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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To: Forgotten Amendments

“Waiting to hear the excuses when Trump picks a girl or a RINO. He’s not gonna’ battle for the Constitution. He doesn’t care.”

Do you people ever get tired of the same recycled BS

Trump gonna do this! Trump gonna do that!

Day in and day out since frigging 2015!

The only thing we wait for are idiot posters that make these certain predictions to get proven wrong. At that point you all just stop posting for a few weeks until you think we don’t remember, or you sign up for a new account.

He already had one pick that you clowns though was some “liberal plant”, so I guess this is just you guys ramping up for the dog and pony show you are going to preform on FR.


26 posted on 06/29/2018 4:00:03 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: irishjuggler

“He may not have the guts to drop the hammer (on Roe)”

My preference is for the court to not even re-vist Roe until there are at least 6 justices ready to overturn it. My reasoning goes like this:

1) There are millions on our side who will ‘tune out’ regarding the Supreme Court once Roe is overturned. After all, they only ‘tuned in’ AFTER Roe was decided. We need their help WELL BEYOND Roe - cleaning up the courts is a much bigger victory for us than just Roe, and they will continue to help us, as long as Roe is undecided.

2) A stronger majority than 5-4 will make the ruling overturning Roe, stronger, and the decision will last longer, as it would take 2 or more seat flips to go back to Roe.


27 posted on 06/29/2018 4:16:12 AM PDT by BobL (I drive a pick up truck because it makes me feel like a man)
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To: Forgotten Amendments
when Trump picks a girl

One might think that with all of your other problems you would refrain from insulting 1/2 of the population.

28 posted on 06/29/2018 4:17:22 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Secret Agent Man

I agree. Roe v Wade was a bad decision, but that doesn’t mean overturning it would lead to abortion being legal. Some states would certainly allow it completely (CA and NY for example). Other states would outlaw it completely. Most states would find some middle ground (Such as abortion is legal for the first Trimester only). Eventually as a society we would coalesce around some some sort of national compromise. And, that compromise would shift right or left in lines with the societies norms of the day. In this way, abortion could be eliminated from society or completely erased but it would always be open for debate and thus adjustment. Yes...I said that. All laws are open to debate.....and abortion would be right in there with them.

In other words, abortion should be dealt with like any other controversial law or issue......by the will of the people who are alive at that moment in time..


29 posted on 06/29/2018 4:22:26 AM PDT by Mustangman
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To: lowbuck
David French makes a number of telling points here and it is worth reading.

For instance: There was a time when a “conservative” judge was essentially a judge who was traditionalist, statist, and institutionalist. Indeed, one of the quickest ways to determine the difference between a liberal and conservative jurist was to examine their record in criminal cases. The conservative judges sided with the state in close case

This is why the tarnish has worn off the "conservative" halo, and French is careful to distinguish between "conservatives" and "originalists."

Too often conservatives have been worshipers of state power, just like liberals, but they want that power used against a different set of people. It is why the power of the federal government has grown to it's Frankensteinian proportions - both sides wanted it. It was only the people who don't like it much.

30 posted on 06/29/2018 4:23:21 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: lowbuck

Here is what I see going down, as outlined by Dan Bongino:

The Left is in a tight place.

Here is a problem for them: The election does not look like it will be a “Blue Wave”. It may not be a “Red Wave”, but it likely won’t be a “Blue Wave”.

So here is the thought process for the Left:

Their only chance is to take back the Senate. But that doesn’t look likely. They have (IIRC) at least six senators up for re-election in states that went for Donald Trump in 2016, so their states supported Donald Trump.

If there is vote for a new justice prior to the election and they vote down that selection in a state that went for Donald Trump, that may not go over well, and they could lose their seat due to the political fallout.

So, here is what Trump should do: Get two candidates on deck, one who is very conservative and reliable, and one who is over the top conservative, a “Leftist Nightmare of a Supreme Court Justice”.

Trump will put up the very conservative and reliable one for nomination prior to the 2018 election, with the very public knowledge (unsaid of course) that if that “reliable” candidate is rejected, after the election, the wildly radically conservative candidate will be nominated.

The Leftists then have a gamble to consider: Do they accept the less radical candidate and vote them in before the election, or do they wait until after the election, when some Leftist senators from states that Trump won may go down due to the backlash to the rejection, and now they don’t have a chance to pick off enough Republican Senators (such as Collins from Maine and Murkowski from Alaska, both of who are raging RINOs and can likely be counted on by the Left) to counter the Democrat Senators who lost.

So, either they accept a conservative nominee we like and can live with, or they gamble, hoping against hope to regain power in the election to thwart any nominee. If they lose, they will get a radical conservative nominee who will be shoved down their throats, and they are going to just have to take it with no recourse.

That is how I see it going down.


31 posted on 06/29/2018 5:03:19 AM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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To: lowbuck

I expect less interference in our lives. Which is a good thing for the country.


32 posted on 06/29/2018 5:10:27 AM PDT by buffaloguy (Bond arms Cowboy)
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To: cpdiii

16,000 proposals to change the Constitution:
33 approved by Congress to be voted on by the states.
27 approved.

Very difficult to do.


33 posted on 06/29/2018 5:13:21 AM PDT by buffaloguy (Bond arms Cowboy)
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To: marktwain
Raich is simply following Wickard v. Filburn, which is a patent sophistry for conflating actual interstate commerce with possible interstate commerce.

Now Wickard being overturned would be a legal earthquake, as most of the administrative state would disappear, since Congress' authority to pass laws governing so much of our economic activity would be gone.

34 posted on 06/29/2018 5:50:02 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens")
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To: Cowboy Bob

The Left has the narrative and we know how dishonest they are. Diversity just divides us. And they know that. We should be celebrating our commonality. But that wouldn’t divide the country, so diversity is pushed by Big Media and Leftists (but I am being redundant).


35 posted on 06/29/2018 6:07:39 AM PDT by originalbuckeye ('In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act'- George Orwell.)
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To: Billthedrill
I suspect the entire concept of “protected classes” will at some point come up against an originalist interpretation of the Equal Protection Clause in the 14th Amendment.

From your keyboard to God's ear!!!
36 posted on 06/29/2018 6:10:37 AM PDT by ExTxMarine (Diversity is tolerance; diverse points of views will not be tolerated!)
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To: lowbuck

The founders designed the court to act in an advisory role, not as the final arbiter of what is or is not constitutional. Congress needs to swat down the courts via impeachment and removal until these unelected black-robes understand their proper constitutional role.

We need an orginalist congress more than an orginalist court.


37 posted on 06/29/2018 6:28:18 AM PDT by sergeantdave (Teach a man to fish and he'll steal your gear and sell it)
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To: lowbuck; All

French is another NeverTrumper who just totally disgraced himself with a totally accurate piece of writing. After all, if his heroine, the Witch, had won, none of the wonderful things he lists in this great article would have even been conceivably possible.


38 posted on 06/29/2018 7:15:57 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: SecAmndmt
Reading his stuff is sort of like reading poetry. Except no one has to ask "what it all means".

His twin guiding forces is "what does the Constitution have to say about it" and "is this something we should even be meddling in."

He does not disregard what the courts have ruled before but he is willing to say that they got it wrong.

39 posted on 06/29/2018 7:37:01 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Bunnies, bunnies, it must be bunnies!! Or maybe midgets....)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
We need another Thomas. He is the one who is willing to look at past decisions and say, this is wrong. Scalia was a bit to enamored of stare decisis.

Agreed on both counts. I wish we could clone Thomas.

When the court gets more "conservative", there are going to be consequences, both good and bad. Had the "conservative" side won in the recent cellphone tracking case, the police state would have had a blanket ability to go back in time and monitor a given person's movements for months and months, without even bothing with a warrant.

Overall, I think having a more conservative court will be good for the republic, but there are dangers there as well.

40 posted on 06/29/2018 7:45:59 AM PDT by zeugma (Power without accountability is fertilizer for tyranny.)
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