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To be fair, the $20 an hour is nothing like that in reality if they have to pay for gas, insurance and car repairs. In the courier industry, independent owner operators get paid by the delivery with a bonus for successful on time deliveries at premium speeds, also bonus for weight above a certain minimum (40 pounds when I was doing it).

In one calendar year I was paid a gross of $65,000 (Cdn) and had a net of about $18,000 without fudging the numbers. You could easily be paying $200-$300 for gas in a week to keep on the road, mandatory insurance of $70 a month over top of car insurance (which you would get anyway) and inevitable frequent car maintenance and repairs. And you spend a small fortune on coffee and snacks, it’s a high energy job especially in hot weather.

I would think $20 an hour was chump change for these part timers, they will net about $10 if they are lucky.


4 posted on 06/30/2018 7:58:46 AM PDT by Peter ODonnell (Respect the law, enforce the law, improve the law -- and encourage leftists to meditate 24/7/365)
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And the government “gives” these contract drivers 0.51 dollars per mile for EVERY MILE driven to offset these “expenses” of insurance, gas, repairs, and depreciation! (Of course, this assumes they are actually filing tax returns, and not just taking welfare payments as well.
Lies and exaggeration.

Again.


23 posted on 06/30/2018 8:44:51 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (The democrats' national goal: One world social-communism under one world religion: Atheistic Islam.)
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To: Peter ODonnell

I think it’s a job for people who are bad at math, similar to Uber.


24 posted on 06/30/2018 8:45:19 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Peter ODonnell

Welcome to the world of being essentially self-employed.

YOU pay your own taxes.
You provide your own benefits
You pay your own expenses

But- YOU also get to pick WHEN you want to work.

YOU do NOT get ‘IT ALL’.

I put in many an hour on another person’s timeclock.

I went out on my own in 1980, and I paid for all my office supplies, computer & software, lights, rent, gas, auto repairs & registrations. I have vehicles that get a maximum of 14 MPG. BUT- they are paid for !!!

I paid for my own health insurance & life insurance & vehicle insurance.

I never had a problem “scheduling a vacation’ because I have never done that. I did go places during those years, but it wasn’t a PAID vacation.

I did get to pick my bookkeeping clients, & got to drop those I didn’t trust. I scrambled for clients & worked out of my home.

I also got to often WAIT for my check from them because most of them were small businesses. Got stiffed by a couple of them, and I hope they die a horrible death. One stiffed me for over $6700. He lost a lawsuit & thought I shouldn’t get paid because HE lost. I could NOT change the facts in his financial records. BUT- He certainly paid his lawyer.

I charged by the hour-—NEVER a minimum. Give me clean paperwork that I can read & your bill will be much less.

There were many nights I worked until past midnight to meet all the payroll deadlines all my clients had. To the best of my knowledge, NONE of my clients ever were audited for work I did.

I make $20 an hour now & have since the last time I gave myself a ‘raise’-—in Jan of 1989.

THAT is OVER 29 years ago.

Match that, you whiners.

YOU have no investment in the business, only in your portion of how many hours you work. When you work an average of 78 hours a week as I have done in the past, you show me those records.

BTW- I OWN all my vehicles—property—personal property —and my animals.


29 posted on 06/30/2018 9:15:17 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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And you spend a small fortune on coffee and snacks, it’s a high energy job especially in hot weather.

Poor planning. You need to carefully spend $20 on the weekend to make enough snacks for the week. Otrherwise you will be spending $20 a day on junk food because that's all you get in convenience stores.

34 posted on 06/30/2018 9:33:57 AM PDT by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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Not to be braggadocious, but I was a handy man in Charlevoix Mi. several years back for a very wealthy couple who owned a magnificent log home on Lake Charlevoix. She was a stay-at-home mother to three, and he was an investment banker in St. Louis. My girlfriend used to laughingly claim she pimped me out to get me my job with them. The bottom line is, I was paid the princely sum of thirty-five dollars an hour; UNDER THE TABLE(!) to work basically about five hours a day for them. That's one hundred and seventy-five dollars a day to do what I call hang pictures. They treated me like a king, and I lived Like one.
40 posted on 06/30/2018 10:18:14 AM PDT by gigster (Cogito, Ergo, Ronaldus Magnus Conservatus)
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To: Peter ODonnell

I think a lot of independent contractor drivers for Uber and Amazon miss in addition to fuel is that their vehicle insurance may not cover business or commercial use, and the state may want the vehicle registered as commercial — all significantly more expensive.


41 posted on 06/30/2018 10:18:47 AM PDT by captain_dave
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To: Peter ODonnell

“And you spend a small fortune on coffee and snacks”

There’s where you made a bug mistake.

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45 posted on 06/30/2018 11:35:02 AM PDT by Mears
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