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Donald Trump and a Brief History of Gun Control
The Truth About Guns ^ | November 20, 2015 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 07/02/2018 8:57:20 AM PDT by marktwain

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I wrote this a year before Donald Trump was elected. It seems to have stood the test of time, and is relevant today.

When I wrote it in November of 2015, Donald Trump was reviled and ridiculed in the comments.

He has shown those commenters to have been wrong, horribly wrong.

1 posted on 07/02/2018 8:57:20 AM PDT by marktwain
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When Trump appeared on TV, it was clear that he had a coherent vision. This is what catapulted him past the common politician, and far enough past Hillary in enough places to garner the presidency. Especially, enough hope was roused in the Rust Belt to put Donald over the top.

No Fair! Republicans aren’t supposed to have visions!


2 posted on 07/02/2018 9:01:12 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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bttt


3 posted on 07/02/2018 9:01:48 AM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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The President should put a ventilated handgun target range where Zer0 had his basketball court. Personally paid for too.
He could practice with, and pick up some shooting tips from his Secret Service detail.


4 posted on 07/02/2018 9:13:02 AM PDT by Sasparilla ( I'm Not Tired of Winning)
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To: marktwain

Yet he immediately jumped on the bumpstock band wagon. Slippery slope.


5 posted on 07/02/2018 9:30:18 AM PDT by suthener
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...The idea of disarming citizens in the United States started in the South where permit systems were designed to keep blacks, who had not been considered citizens, disarmed...

The former restricted permit system came into effect in Michigan after Dr. Ossian Sweet, a black man, moved his family from the ghetto to a white area of Detroit. He was soon confronted by a mob of 400-500 in front of his new home in the mid 1920’s.
Some of the mob began to break into his home and were forced back by Dr. Sweet and his family’s defensive gunfire.
One white man was killed and the Dr. was tried for murder.
He was defended by Clarence Darrow and was found not guilty.
Since the state failed to get a pound of flesh from him, they instituted a “may issue” carry permit system.
This was designed to keep handguns out of the hands of the “wrong” people then.
Those people included blacks, the Irish, and Jews.
The state changed the permit system to “shall issue” under the Governorship of Jennifer Granholm when it was attached to a must pass budget bill.
After reflecting on the fact that licensing didn’t result in the predicted shootouts at every traffic accident, Granholm said she was glad that she signed the new permit system into law.


6 posted on 07/02/2018 9:31:47 AM PDT by Sasparilla ( I'm Not Tired of Winning)
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Progressives show that they fear and distrust the people, who they believe are too stupid to govern themselves

This is sort of self fulfilling. If the majority votes in leftists/statists, then by definition they've show themselves to be too stupid for self governance

7 posted on 07/02/2018 9:32:36 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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Any permit requirement is nothing more than an illegal infringement upon the right recognized in the second amendment. Yet no national leader has had the balls to come out and say so, and demand that the illegal laws be overturned. Maybe President Trump will be the one to do so.


8 posted on 07/02/2018 9:59:29 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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9 posted on 07/02/2018 10:07:51 AM PDT by deoetdoctrinae (Donate monthly and end FReepathons.)
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I like his stance on it, but I do disagree (Which is ok, really).

I am not ashamed to be an armed American. If those around me are not comfortable with it, they need to find their quiet space and think it over.

I have no problem seeing a “gang banging black” carrying a gun. Whether I like it or not, it’s their right and rights don’t just apply to guys in polos and khaki pants. when they monkey around with them, flashing them through rap videos and swinging them around repeating “it real it real it real yo nigga it real see dis right here it real nigga” I think they are just retards. I won’t live where these people are, but I’ll defend their right to have guns.

If they are not citizens then they have no national right to carry them. And for that, it may be illegal. But I support every human being’s god-given right to have a gun on them.

And since I’m a polo and khaki wearing gun owner, believe me - people pick me out as the guy with the gun. I fit that profile. I can be deep concealing or maybe not have a gun at all and since I look like an NRA instructor people think I have one.


10 posted on 07/02/2018 10:32:05 AM PDT by Celerity
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We need the following legislation coming from the Trump Administration next January, following the installation of several new Republican Senators and the retention of the House:

1) Concealed carry reciprocity, passed under the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment.

2) The Hearing Protection Act or similar legislation that would make sound suppressors into non-NFA items, which could be bought over-the-counter like magazines, scopes, holsters, etc.

3) Repeal of that part of the 1986 Firearms Owners Protection Act which limited the registration of full autos to those in existence as of May 18, 1986. That is blatantly unconstitutional, and even flies in the face of the “US v. Miller” decision, under which the government argued (and the Supremes agreed) that the ban on full autos was not a violation of the 2nd Amendment because it was a tax raising effort - well, if you cannot collect said tax, then it IS a ban.

If President Trump does those things, then I’ll be happy regarding his stance on firearms.


11 posted on 07/02/2018 12:00:46 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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When I wrote it in November of 2015, Donald Trump was reviled and ridiculed in the comments.

You have certainly been vindicated.

Thanks Dean

12 posted on 07/02/2018 12:19:24 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victikms, and control freaks.)
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Any permit requirement is nothing more than an illegal infringement upon the right recognized in the second amendment. Yet no national leader has had the balls to come out and say so, and demand that the illegal laws be overturned. Maybe President Trump will be the one to do so.

The only laws there should be related to guns are those that say you can't commit a crime using one. Speaking of guns (cue the shameless vanity post), this morning I went out to the local indoor range and shot my P38 for the first time in probably 20 years.

My Dad served in WWII (Utah Beach and Battle of Bulge) as an infantry combat medic. After his 4-year hitch he had a several years break in service, but then re-enliisted and completed a 20 year career.

Sometime back in the 60's he was stationed in peace-time Germany and met a former German soldier who had fought on the German side in the Battle of the Bulge. My Dad actually formed a friendship with this man, who presented Dad with his personal 1943 Walther (Actually this is made by Mauser) P38 which has been in the family ever since. When Dad died in '84 I inherited this gun, which has a leather holster that the German soldier signed and personalized to my Dad on the inside flap.

I last shot it at a range about 20 years ago and at that time it shot very nicely. I had not shot it since then until today. I took it to a local (reputable) gunsmith just to have it properly cleaned and checked out before I took it to the indoor range. All the numbers match on this gun and it has a "byf" stamp, which indicates it was a version made by Mauser. It has 1943 stamped on it with a serial number 1984 b. (An interesting coincidence is that the seal number (1984) is the year my Dad died and I inherited the gun). I have heard some purists/collectors say I should never shoot this gun, but I know my Dad and Uncle had shot it consistently during the 60s while I was growing up. I'm not going to over do it, but I do plan to take it to the range from time to time and put some range ammo though it; otherwise it will just sit locked in a safe.


13 posted on 07/02/2018 12:55:34 PM PDT by JaguarXKE (Liberalism is a cancer on our nation.)
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a beauty.

one can still find a wartime mfg p38, but most suffer from the bakelite grips falling apart, and the bores are usually pretty crappy.

yours is a dandy....


14 posted on 07/02/2018 1:02:36 PM PDT by QualityMan (The Adults are back in town)
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Very Nice!


15 posted on 07/02/2018 6:09:04 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY)
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To: JaguarXKE; Chode; Squantos; snooter55; OldMissileer; All

Very nice, Thank You for sharing Your piece of History with Us.

(((PING)))


16 posted on 07/02/2018 11:19:30 PM PDT by mabarker1 (congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!!)
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nice group...

my uncle gave me his AC/43 bring back a few years before he died but i have yet to fire it


17 posted on 07/03/2018 4:10:04 AM PDT by Chode ( WeÂ’re America, Bitch!)
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My uncle was the Aircraft Commander in B-25’s in the 5th Air Force, Pacific Theater. His squadron, on some tiny island, was the first to modify their B-25’s to have the eight 50 caliber machine guns facing forward. They were also the squadron with the big dragon’s teeth painted on the noses and were also one of the first to perform the “skip-bombing.”

They all realized their low-level skip-bombing was quite dangerous so all were issued M-1 Carbines as well as their M-1911 pistols.

My uncle’s plane was hit over China and he got the plane down without any loss of life, then he and his crew spent a few months behind Japanese lines with the Chinese partisans escaping to General Chang’s lines. When they finally made it back to American forces they were told they could keep their sidearms and their carbines. When he passed my aunt gave me that carbine and I still have it and cherish it to this day.


18 posted on 07/03/2018 11:07:43 AM PDT by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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My brother has two (2) P38’s and WILL NOT sell, loan, bequeath one (1) to me. Waaaahhhhhhhhh !
On a brighter note, he has been very generous with an M1A, multiple handguns, Red Label Ruger 12ga. and one Winchester lever action 30-30 along with countless knives & accessories.

The above mention rubs heavy amounts of salt in the wound of that terrible boating accident on Badin Lake which claimed all of the the aforementioned. Horrible day that was saddened more without insurance. I mourn that loss still.

Snoot ;o)


19 posted on 07/03/2018 11:10:19 AM PDT by snooter55 (People may doubt what you say, but they will always believe what you do)
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To: Chode
my uncle gave me his AC/43 bring back a few years before he died but i have yet to fire it

That's one actually made by Walther! Have it checked out by a competent gunsmith if/before you do fire it.

20 posted on 07/03/2018 4:00:41 PM PDT by JaguarXKE (Liberalism is a cancer on our nation.)
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