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What Happened to Civility ?
The Daily Dose of Reason ^ | July 3, 2018 | Dr. Michael J Hurd

Posted on 07/03/2018 7:51:50 PM PDT by huckfillary

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To: allendale

If it is true that swing voters decide every election, then we really are ruled by the dumbest who somehow still manage to vote based on who can sway them that political cycle. The ones that vote that can’t articulately express a rational political philosophy that guides them, but who vote on things like appearance or who the media said was a better debater. Supposedly they are around 10% of eligible voters that deign to vote.

Freegards


21 posted on 07/03/2018 8:18:45 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: dfwgator

And the Toxic Masculinity!


22 posted on 07/03/2018 8:21:05 PM PDT by bigbob (Trust Sessions. Trust the Plan.)
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To: usconservative

Yes, but you could look at them and ask “Who raised you, wolves?”


23 posted on 07/03/2018 8:27:45 PM PDT by McGavin999 ("The press is impotent when it abandons itself to falsehood."Thomas Jeffersons)
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To: huckfillary

Some of us still love America.

Some of us don’t.

Add in 30 million fraudulently documented foreigners invited in against the will of the citizens and this is what you get.


24 posted on 07/03/2018 8:35:41 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: huckfillary

After 30 years of corruption and control in every direction, I’d guess the country is not in a garden party mood yet. Etiquette and decorum will be taking the back seat for a few years. The cleanup has barely started.


25 posted on 07/03/2018 8:36:39 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: huckfillary

Hmmm. “Civility breaking down” only seems to be a problem now that the Right is fighting back - see the lates Antifa KOs on LiveLeak for fun!


26 posted on 07/03/2018 8:43:22 PM PDT by Darteaus94025 (Can't have a Liberal without a Lie)
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To: Ransomed
“One person will say it’s social media. But that’s blaming the medium. It would be kind of like blaming the telephone for a fight during a phone conversation. It’s not the telephone – it’s the people! Social media is no different.”

Social media is VERY different and the author completely misses why. The anonymity of social media using Twitter as one example permits people to say things that they'd never say in person. They can act out however they wish without fear of consequence. That is, for those who use Twitter and don't use their real names which is what, about 90% of the "twitterverse?"

Those who do speak out such as some idiot hollywood celebrity like, oh say Roseanne Barr then get attacked by millions of other idiots relentlessly (who are primarily anonymous of course) until they lose their jobs, incomes, etc..

Then there's Facebook. Need I say more there?

Those who infest (and I use that word deliberately) "social media" have gotten so used to expressing themselves via their bad behavior on those platforms that it's spread to everyday life.

So yes, I can absolutely assign blame to "social media" and specifically twitter and facebook for providing the very platforms for people to normalize their bad behavior on which enabled them to also do it in "real life."

We didn't have the non-stop public displays of uncivil animal-like behavior behavior until these "social media" platforms came along. Now it's just one uncivil asshole after another, after another seemingly in a contest to see "how uncivil can I be and get away with it?"

27 posted on 07/03/2018 8:45:39 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: McGavin999
Yes, but you could look at them and ask “Who raised you, wolves?”

But I like wolves, they serve a purpose.

28 posted on 07/03/2018 8:46:46 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative

True, but the also talk incessantly about sex, religion and politics


29 posted on 07/03/2018 8:48:06 PM PDT by McGavin999 ("The press is impotent when it abandons itself to falsehood."Thomas Jeffersons)
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To: huckfillary

Well, I just got suspended from a non-political site for pointing out that transwomen are not actually women. Such language was deemed “abusive” - so the Left is now stating that mentioning inconvenient facts in public is uncivil.


30 posted on 07/03/2018 8:49:12 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: McGavin999
True, but the also talk incessantly about sex, religion and politics.

No they don't, they talk incessantly about which deer in the herd they're following they're gonna take down for their next meal.

All they talk about is food and I wish they'd talk about something else.

31 posted on 07/03/2018 8:53:40 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Ransomed
It would be kind of like blaming the telephone for a fight during a phone conversation. It’s not the telephone – it’s the people!

Actually, I do blame the telephone for many an unkind word and misunderstanding!

Telephone calls often interrupt other activities at the home of the receiving party - a fact which the caller doesn't always immediately recognize.

The receiving party might be in the midst of a domestic dispute of his own - dealing with unruly children or an angry spouse - and then the call comes.

Or, contrariwise, the call comes during an "intimate" moment in the bathroom or the bedroom.

In both scenarios, the receiving party is already feeling "put upon."

Then, with telephone calls (as opposed to personal visits), the participants can't see each other's faces. Thus, a casual joke may be misinterpreted as a cutting remark, a helpful suggestion as an intrusive criticism.

Of course, compared with the Internet, there is less chance of the altercation then spreading like wildfire.

Regards,

32 posted on 07/03/2018 8:54:15 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: dfwgator

It’s interesting to see its limited correlation to “religion” — perhaps, even to faith. I believe “religion” does build many of the houses in which “civility” lives. It did in Canada. It brings in and makes respectable concepts that barbarian societies would scoff at. Even the atheists of the founding times found the bible to be built around wisdom, which is a different breed from the modern kind who see their missions as to mock everything that Christianity caused to be built.

But keeping these houses is a different story from building these houses. Sans faith, they are nice for a while, but will become decrepit and eventually collapse.


33 posted on 07/03/2018 8:57:26 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: usconservative

That’s only if outsiders are around. At home in their caves the talk ALWAYS turns to Politics, Religion and Sex. Everyone knows that.


34 posted on 07/03/2018 8:57:38 PM PDT by McGavin999 ("The press is impotent when it abandons itself to falsehood."Thomas Jeffersons)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
... so the Left is now stating that mentioning inconvenient facts in public is uncivil.

Are you sure you're not confusing incivility with political correctness?

You were likely suspended more for being politically incorrect than uncivil.

This reminds me of something I was pondering earlier today: what happens when the politically correct idiots finally start clashing with the uncivil idiots?

Right now they appear to be on the same side however I can see the left and way-out-left clashing in the near future. That'll be a true "pass the popcorn" kinda thing.

35 posted on 07/03/2018 8:57:45 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: alexander_busek

That’s kind of quibbly, if one has an answering machine or voicemail....


36 posted on 07/03/2018 8:58:47 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: McGavin999
Oh dammit, apparently I'm not with the "in crowd" again since I'm not everyone.

I'm sad now, you uncivil jerk!

Does this need a /humor tag?

37 posted on 07/03/2018 8:59:47 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative

“We didn’t have the non-stop public displays of uncivil animal-like behavior behavior until these “social media” platforms came along.”

I agree, but of course evil the wound in our society is spiritual, at least in my opinion. It seemed to happen around the same time as the rise of social media.
Many social media platforms require that you express yourself as your real name and identity. People still say wild crap they would never say even though everyone knows who the other is. It isn’t all anonymous. I think the greater problem comes from social media where you reveal who you actually are.

The other thing I can think of that the downgrade in society corresponds to the rise of technology is the availability of internet porn.

Freegards


38 posted on 07/03/2018 9:00:50 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Answering machine?! What's that!?

I wonder how many of the noob's here on FR don't even know what that is.......

39 posted on 07/03/2018 9:00:51 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative

It’s the thing that made attending to phone messages at one’s convenience in a land line age, possible. And there were people who did just ignore the phone when they wanted to.


40 posted on 07/03/2018 9:02:37 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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