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To: Poison Pill
How long do you figure these farmers can run significantly below break even?

I'm not following you- Tariffs are paid by those IMPORTING goods. If Chinese markets continue to import pork - THEY pay the tariffs. If other examples prove to hold out - higher tariffs tend to slow importation of that product - and raises the price to THEIR consumers, both from the direct cost of the tariff being passed on, but also the higher price of that commodity due to there being less imported). I am about as "anti-tax" as anyone. Tariffs are a form of taxation. BUT - #1 - Tariffs were the original form of funding for our Federal Government. #2 - If one is going to use Tariffs as a tool to insure that tariffs are not unfairly practiced (particularly in light of trade "deals" that were suppose to "even the playing field" - then go for it. Why should we give China a free ride? They ship quantities of goods to the US in volume most Americans are not even capable of comprehending. They do this after stealing intellectual and design property. They do this while paying their workers near-nothing. They do this while undermining our interests around the world. They do with while also engaging in electronic/technological warfare against us. They do this while also enjoying cut-rate shipping via our own USPS (How can a Chinese company ship a $1 item around the globe to be delivered by the USPS - when the item itself costs nearly $1 to manufacture?) At the same time, China charges tariffs on everything we ship to them. Tariffs that are significantly higher than the tariffs we (sometimes) charge them. All while having promised to "open" their markets. Sorry - but tariffs are part of doing business internationally.

67 posted on 07/05/2018 11:17:51 AM PDT by TheBattman (Democrats-Progressives-Marxists-Socialists - redundant labels.)
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To: TheBattman
I'm not following you- Tariffs are paid by those IMPORTING goods. If Chinese markets continue to import pork - THEY pay the tariffs.

They won't continue to import at the same levels. That's the point. They will switch import partners, use alternate products, produce internally, or go without. Supplies of pork back up here, the price goes down and the hogs farmer's revenue falls off a cliff. That's what they did with soybeans. They now buy somewhere else.

Tariffs were the original form of funding for our Federal Government.

Yes, back when we had no income tax and the cost to run the country was microscopic. If the country wants to repeal the income tax, can the IRS, cut the government in half and fund the remaining operations with a blanket 2% tariff on all imports, sign me up!

73 posted on 07/05/2018 3:04:51 PM PDT by Poison Pill
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