Posted on 07/05/2018 7:56:32 AM PDT by SMGFan
Just hours after Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy announced his retirement, media legal analysts and commentators began forecasting what this will mean for women’s reproductive freedom. On CNN: “Roe v. Wade is doomed.” Huffington Post: “It’s time to prepare for life without nationwide legal abortion.” Reuters: “a death knell for Roe v. Wade.” Or, as one commenter remarked, invoking Dylan, “looks like it’s all over now, baby blue.”
I share the despair, but have we forgotten something? Republicans have a one-vote majority in the Senate. Their number includes two female moderates, Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski, both of whom support abortion rights, and one of whom — Ms. Collins — has already declared this week that she would not support a candidate hostile to Roe v. Wade.
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same as what bought McCain and Flake!
“Those two left a long time ago. Am not even sure if they are real Americans.”
They both voted for Gorsuch. They will both vote for whoever Trump puts up. For the nominee, the answer to the question is simple. “It’s settled law....like the second amendment.”
Then let the rats heads explode as they and their media lapdogs try to figure out what to say.
Yeah, good luck ever getting elected again, feckless ones.
Those two aren’t prostitutes.
They are whores....................
They night be moderates but they’re not Socialists
I live in Maine.
Susan Collins keeps getting re-elected because the RAT party always runs some ultra-left wing female state senator moonbat against her, a liberal woman few people ever heard of before.
Collins ends up looking good in comparison, which she is not.
Collins did vote for Neil Gorsuch and voted for the president’s tax cuts, so she wasn’t a total washout.
In 2014 I did a write-in rather than vote for Susan Collins.
She gets a big chunk of democrat votes as well as most Republicans in Maine, so we’re stuck with her for as long as she wants that seat, unfortunately.
When she first ran for the Senate she said she would serve just two terms. That obviously was a lie.
Come next January, there will be a lot more Republicans in the Senate, so there will be some wiggle room in regards to the GOP squishes. There are eight GOP seats up this November, and 23 democrap seats, plus the two so-called “independents,” Bernie Sanders of Vermont and Angus King of Maine.
The numbers just are not there for the dems this election cycle.
Also, Doug Jones of Alabama will most likely lose to a GOP senator in 2020, so that should be a pickup further down the road.
That's right, ladies. It's called courtship and celebacy before marriage. That is the time to prepare for life.
Democrats love to talk about the Laws in other Nation’s when it serves their purpose, I.E. European Socialized Medicine.
If you suggest that the United States adopts other Laws that Foreign Nations have on the books, I.E. European Abortion Restrictions and Mexican Immigration Laws, their heads explode.
Eliminating abortion would be a 20 year or so process. First would be overturning Roe, which should not be attempted until Trump replaces Ginsberg to give the court a 6-3 majority. Make it 5-4, and there is a good chance Roberts will flake out, as someone else noted. Being 6-3 gives courage to shaky minds.
The case should be overturned on the basis that it wrongly created a right to privacy that said that states can’t regulate abortion. That was simply made up, and overturning it simply returns the issue to the states, where it was in 1973. Several states had legalized abortion at that point. Overturning it will also send a signal that judge-made fabricated rights will be on the way out. Gay marriage, etc. will eventually be returned to the states to regulate.
The next thing that will happen after Roe is overturned is that 30 or so states will promptly pass laws legalizing abortion to various degrees. Also, it is entirely possible that Congress could weigh in, depending on its makeup. The Commerce Clause would permit Congress to regulate abortion at the federal level if it so chose, and Congress could make it legal, illegal or limited. I doubt Congress will want to weigh in, though.
Finally, to outlaw abortion nationwide, where a majority support it (supposedly) will require a long term political effort. It would require both a legal theory, years of courts wrestling with those theories, and finally a court willing to take the case and issue a ruling on a very controversial topic that will impact the court’s prestige with the public. The Court is always very cognizant that its power derives from the public’s perception of the fairness and wisdom of their decisions. Leftists always complain when cases don’t go their ways, but the general public can hear about the reasoning and will accept it when it makes sense, i.e., is not liberal law creating.
The theory that would most likely have to be used to outlaw abortion constitutionally, to make it permanent and nationwide, would be a decision that declares that unborn children are “persons” as defined by the constitution, and are entitled to rights under the constitution, and that murdering them in the womb violates their rights to due process and life, and maybe even constitutes a cruel punishment, although that amendment applies to criminal punishments so maybe not. That legal argument should be raised AFTER Roe is overturned. First, get rid of Roe, and return it to the states. One step at a time, until murdering babies is completely outlawed, bringing the public with us when it happens.
It would make the uniparty’s job a heckuva lot harder if conservatives found and ran DINOs in primaries...
I hope those two do leave and then the Republicans still substantially increase their presence in the Senate in November.
I read a few years ago that a study had shown that far more women in total numbers die or are maimed from legal abortions than ever died in that mythical back alley. Illegal abortions will still occur if it is made illegal but in far fewer numbers with far fewer casualties among woman and of course fewer deaths among children.
The principle being defended is the right of people in power to use or dispose of other people for the benefit of the people in power.
NYT? Where is the obligatory barf alert? Up to 99% of what comes from that rag is pure hogwash.
They fit better in GOP than Democrats party?
People need to think logically instead of emotionally. The fact is we need every Republican we can get. A pro-abortion Republican is still better than a pro-abortion Democrat. If we can get rid of the pro-abortion Republicans in primaries, that is a good thing but after that, we vote for ALL Republicans.
That’s right, they did vote for Gorsuch. Occasionaly, these leftist Republicans come in handy and IRRC, Obamacare got not one Republican vote. Even McCain voted against it.
You never vote against a SCOTUS appointee. They know that rule and won’t break it.
Murkowski’s senate seat is illegitimate, being ‘won’ through a fraudulent write-in campaign as a loser in the Alaska primary which went to Joe Miller. Yeah, like that’s going to happen.
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