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If you are concerned about government surveillance, you should be skeptical of Brett Kavanaugh
Washington Examiner ^ | July 11, 2018 | Erin Dunne

Posted on 07/11/2018 2:59:37 PM PDT by TBP

The Fourth Amendment broadly guarantees that Americans should be free from government intrusion in their homes and private lives and that infringements on these rights must come with the justification of a warrant or probable cause. These guarantees and protections form the basis of property protections and a right to privacy both of which are fundamental to individual liberty.

In 2015, Kavanaugh went out of his way to minimize these protections. During his tenure on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit, he issued a separate concurrence in the denial of a rehearing en banc in Klayman v. Obama. That case dealt with the constitutionality of the National Security Agency’s collection of telephone metadata of all Americans. In telecommunications, metadata is the information on the length and time of calls and their origins and destinations which includes a sweeping amount of data and can offer broad details of the private lives of Americans. In his statement, Kavanaugh sided with the government writing, “In my view, the government’s metadata collection program is entirely consistent with the Fourth Amendment.”


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: fourthamendment; kavanaugh; scotus; supremecourt
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

I support the round up of information for a member of a suspect group, or a rogue on his own.

There’s no way I agree with the collection of data on every citizen, as I believe is being rounded up today.


41 posted on 07/11/2018 3:49:07 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Take a look out there folks. Can you see evidence of a Left Wing Hate Group, perhaps fascist too?)
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To: TBP

No, if you are a whiny brat crying because your Never Trump god Mike Lee did not get picked, you are concerned about Kavauagh. Everyone is smart enough to realize how utterly stupid and self destructive this Never Trump clown show is.


42 posted on 07/11/2018 3:51:55 PM PDT by MNJohnnie ("The political class is a bureaucracy designed to perpetuate itself" Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Osage Orange

Sorry, I’ll try not to do it agan


43 posted on 07/11/2018 3:53:29 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: TBP

“Kavanaugh apparently believes that the Fourth Amendment allows the government to collect our data. That is disturbing. “

He’s the candidate Trump chose. He’s the ONLY one with a chance of being confirmed this fall. So...you think I need to oppose him?

Not a chance! No way in hell! “Get Thee behind me, Satan!” Not interested. I’ll take the 90% candidate instead of waiting for Mr Perfect!


44 posted on 07/11/2018 3:55:42 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: DoughtyOne

That’s all true.

LEOs should still expect everyone to be armed though simply because we are Americans.

As far as talking about the guns you own on the internet; people say a lot of things on the internet. They may also neglect to say a lot of things too.


45 posted on 07/11/2018 3:56:37 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Ruling the SC wrong is not in the powers of an appelllate judge


46 posted on 07/11/2018 3:56:51 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: momincombatboots; TBP; NutsOnYew

Infantile stupid ignorant twaddle. Completely without the slightest hint of any intellectual merit or fact.

These statements on this thread indicate the posters did NOT bother to learn a single thing about Kavanguah and instead are mindlessly vomiting what ever stupidity their 5th rate radio talk show hosts have screamed at them.

The Cruzbots are racing around here screaming emotionally hysteric utter nonsense because they stupidly believe if they can stop Kavanuah their Never Trump god, Mike Lee will get the job.

Most of the statements on this thread are wholly without a slightest hint of intellectual merit or fact. They are merely the narcissistic whining of people STILL pouting Cruz lost.


47 posted on 07/11/2018 3:59:21 PM PDT by MNJohnnie ("The political class is a bureaucracy designed to perpetuate itself" Rush Limbaugh)
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To: TigersEye

Yes, I also think officers should assume a person is packing, or at least has weapons at home. Can you act on that? No, not without cause.

Officers are at risk every day. They need to be wary.

I think gun owners should be ambiguous concerning gun ownership.


48 posted on 07/11/2018 4:05:34 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Take a look out there folks. Can you see evidence of a Left Wing Hate Group, perhaps fascist too?)
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To: TBP

Surveillance doesn’t need a judge on the Supreme Court. All surveillance needs is a corrupt DOJ and FBI.

Any questions?

5.56mm


49 posted on 07/11/2018 4:08:46 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: DoughtyOne
Bill Binney's Thinthread program at NSA had built-in protection for US citizens, but Michael Hayden and gang scrapped it for the boondoggle Pathfinder Project, which had no such protection. They later proved that Thinthread would have predicted the 9/11 attacks. Pathfinder did not and a few years later Pathfinder was ended, but its supporters kept their money.

Thomas Drake, a senior executive at NSA, quoted Maureen Baginsky: "9/11 is a gift to NSA. We're gonna get all the money we need and then some."

50 posted on 07/11/2018 4:20:26 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Mozart tells you what it's like to be human. Bach tells you what it's like to be the universe)
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To: TBP

He’s a judge. By definition that makes him someone I stay skeptical about even when they’re saying all the right things.


51 posted on 07/11/2018 4:24:03 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: MNJohnnie

Hear hear....

It does get sickening.


52 posted on 07/11/2018 4:26:11 PM PDT by Gator113 ( ~~Trump 2020~~ There needs to be a quieting of the screaming lambs.)
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To: TBP

The new liberaltarian Republicans (hippie faction) decided that they would rather use police against terrorists than to fight a real overseas war. That choice always includes more surveillance.


53 posted on 07/11/2018 4:29:01 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: AndyJackson

I’d do it again...if I was you.


54 posted on 07/11/2018 4:29:50 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Whiskey Tango Foxtrot)
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To: TBP

Yeah. One of nine. More concerned about the murder if babies.


55 posted on 07/11/2018 4:30:58 PM PDT by Gulf War One
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To: AndyJackson; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
Ruling the SC wrong is not in the powers of an appelllate judge

Not their powers, but every Justice/Judge can add comments to their rulings as to why another courts rulings are incorrect. They have no official effect but give notice to the rest of the world about where that particular Justice/Judge is coming from.

As I have posted to you before, Justice Thomas does this all the time, as well as, I believe, Scalia did this as well.

I prefer this type of Jurist as it lets me know what they are thinking and how they are approaching different facets of the law.

This is one of the factors that go into the measure of whether or not a Jurist is a Great Jurist, or just following the mechanical rules of being a Jurist.
56 posted on 07/11/2018 4:38:23 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: DoughtyOne
Can you act on that? No, not without cause.

Internet bragging would be pretty weak cause IMO.

I think gun owners should be ambiguous concerning gun ownership.

Even someone who is identifying particular guns that they own may still be being ambiguous about the subject as a whole. ;-)

57 posted on 07/11/2018 4:45:38 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Thanks for the mention.

We need to able to trust these people, and I’m hard pressed to do that today.


58 posted on 07/11/2018 4:49:08 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Take a look out there folks. Can you see evidence of a Left Wing Hate Group, perhaps fascist too?)
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To: Osage Orange

It’s easy for you to say. You aren’t me.


59 posted on 07/11/2018 4:51:06 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: TigersEye

No, but the internet bragging can certainly put you on a list.

Then some innocuous thing comes up, and suddenly your home is being searched on that case. Wink wink...

I do very little talking about guns on the internet.

I may talk about a weapon that is involved in some incident, but beyond that I’ll stick to guns I had as a kid.


60 posted on 07/11/2018 4:53:25 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Take a look out there folks. Can you see evidence of a Left Wing Hate Group, perhaps fascist too?)
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