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[Originally published 2014] How reliant is Europe on Russian gas?
The Economist ^ | Apr 3rd 2014 | E.S.L. and A.C.M.

Posted on 07/12/2018 4:57:30 AM PDT by BlackAdderess

THE crisis in Ukraine has alarmed the rest of Europe—not just because of the prospect of war, or chaos on its borders, but because a row with Russia over Ukraine's unpaid gas bill threatens energy security in the rest of the continent. Europe could survive a short interruption of a few weeks to the pipelines across Ukraine, assuming that other Russian gas kept flowing. The European Union has built in more resilience since the last upset in Ukraine, in 2009. Now it is hurrying to reduce its reliance further. But measures such as better storage, more interconnectors and diversification of supply will take several years. In the long term Europe could import more liquefied natural gas as new supplies come on stream, chiefly from America. (snip)

(Excerpt) Read more at economist.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Germany; Russia
KEYWORDS: gas; trump; un

1 posted on 07/12/2018 4:57:30 AM PDT by BlackAdderess
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To: BlackAdderess

The EU needs to worry about migrant invaders, communism, lack of defense spending, and a de-genderization that is depopulating it more than Russian gas imports.


2 posted on 07/12/2018 5:02:46 AM PDT by Socon-Econ
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To: BlackAdderess

Meanwhile, Russia has gone to war in syria to prevent the construction of a cheaper pipeline from the Gulf across Syria and the med to land un Europe.


3 posted on 07/12/2018 5:03:37 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... In August our cities will be burning))
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You forgot to mention the Russians were invited into Syria by the government...unlike the United States and their jihadist allies.


4 posted on 07/12/2018 5:12:39 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: mac_truck

actually you are wrong

from the beginning we were associated with the Kurds and Sunnis in both Iraq and Syria.

Obama backed out and thus allowed the radicals to enter and prevail until routed.

Many Freepers can’t see that there are actual good guys involved and that not all Muslims are bad


5 posted on 07/12/2018 5:18:25 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... In August our cities will be burning))
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To: bert
from the beginning we were associated with the Kurds and Sunnis in both Iraq and Syria.

Obama backed out and thus allowed the radicals to enter and prevail until routed.

Many Freepers can’t see that there are actual good guys involved and that not all Muslims are bad

The released 2012 DIA assessment suggests otherwise, and former DIA director Flynn confirmed, the Obama administration didn't 'back out', they supported the Gulf dictatorships bid to use jihadists to oust Assad. It created a giant war that cost hundreds of thousands of lives and created millions of refugees and failed to oust Assad. Give Obama his due!

6 posted on 07/12/2018 5:37:36 AM PDT by Gunslingr3
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It was after the assesment you mentioned thatObama turned his back on the Syrian patriots and the others in the coalition and jst backed out.

There s no defending Obama. He is a villian


7 posted on 07/12/2018 5:42:34 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... In August our cities will be burning))
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[Originally published 2014] How reliant is Europe on Russian gas?

Just wait till Germany has a harsh winter and russia decides to do something; how loud do you think the Germans will protest if they risk having their supplies of natural gas cut off?

8 posted on 07/12/2018 5:55:16 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty ('DEPLORABLE' Charter Member of The Vast Right Wing Conspiracy - and DAMN Proud of it!.)
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To: Socon-Econ

“The EU needs to worry about migrant invaders, communism, lack of defense spending, and a de-genderization that is depopulating it more than Russian gas imports.”

What’s happened is that as the Left took over, the coal and nuke plants have been shut down. Sure they ‘said’ renewables would replace all that power...but they knew full-well that it can only replace a small portion. So now Europe is loading up with ‘back-up’ natural gas power plants, which will slowly become full-time operations, as the luster of renewables quickly wears off (i.e., one can only get so much solar power in Germany, or England, particularly in winter, when there’s virtually none).

So, quietly the building binge continues for natural gas plants - but now they need the gas, and Russia has tons of it, and it’s cheap...so that’s where we are.

As to Germany being controlled by Russia - that’s probably better for their future than being controlled by Merkel, so hard to see a downside.


9 posted on 07/12/2018 5:58:11 AM PDT by BobL (I drive a pick up truck because it makes me feel like a man)
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To: bert

I’m not wrong.

The Kurds have no authority to invite in foreign powers into Syria.

They’re good fighters but don’t understand geopolitics or their role on the global chess board.

Besides which they’re communist.


10 posted on 07/12/2018 6:36:25 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: mac_truck

Syria is no longer Syria. The British/French disrtibution of 1918 is cancelled.


11 posted on 07/12/2018 7:09:50 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... In August our cities will be burning))
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The ‘Syrian patriots’, or ‘moderate rebels’ or whatever you wan to call them were a stalking horse for the jihadists.
The effort ultimately failed because Russia intervened and the US doesn’t want to start WW3 just to replace the Syrian dictator (wisely!)


12 posted on 07/12/2018 7:55:14 AM PDT by Gunslingr3
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To: Gunslingr3

Drivel..... total drivel

That is FRee Republic dogma but is incorrect


13 posted on 07/12/2018 8:41:07 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... In August our cities will be burning))
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To: Gunslingr3
The ‘Syrian patriots’, or ‘moderate rebels’ or whatever you wan to call them were a stalking horse for the jihadists.

Concurring bump...and now that the Syrian government is taking back territory in the south they're finding stockpiles of brand new US, French and even Israeli weapons. I'm talking tanks, TOW missile launchers, and tons of munitions.

American TOW launchers

French APILAS anti-tank weapons

14 posted on 07/12/2018 9:20:15 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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