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Dust Bowl Economics: Trump wants taxpayers to bail out farmers hurt by his trade war.
Wall Street Journal ^ | July 11, 2018

Posted on 07/12/2018 4:59:13 AM PDT by reaganaut1

When pork prices collapsed amid a global trade war during the Great Depression, the Roosevelt Administration in 1933 had an idea—slaughter six million piglets. Put a floor under prices by destroying supply. It didn’t work. Now the Trump Administration may try its own version of Depressionomics by using the Commodity Credit Corporation (CCC) to support crop prices walloped by the Trump tariffs: Hurt farmers and then put them on the government dole. How about not hurting them in the first place?

That’s the question as Mr. Trump escalates his trade war, on Wednesday proposing 10% tariffs on $200 billion in additional Chinese goods. China says it is “shocked” by the new border taxes and will look to retaliate again—and no doubt U.S. agriculture will again be one of its main targets.

Enter the forgotten but alas not gone CCC, the financial institution that FDR charged with solving the problem of depressed markets caused by weak demand. Farmers were told to plant less in exchange for a floor under prices. The CCC financed the purchase of surpluses through nonrecourse “loans” to farmers, and held the crops in storage.

When market demand improved, the Agriculture Department was supposed to sell the stored commodities at higher prices. Nonrecourse meant that the farmer didn’t have to repay the loan, and the USDA often couldn’t unload the surpluses because demand didn’t recover.

The Depression ended but the CCC kept going. In 2012 Congress put limits on CCC purchases of surplus commodities and on price supports after the Obama Administration used it for a costly 2009 disaster program without Congressional approval. But then out of the blue this year, Congress lifted the limits on CCC’s power to remove surplus crops from the market to support prices.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Canada; Editorial; Mexico
KEYWORDS: 2018election; 2020election; agriculture; canada; china; debt; election2018; election2020; farmers; farming; farmsubsidies; maga; mexico; nafta; nevertrump; nevertrumper; nevertrumpers; pork; soybean; tariffs; trade; welfare
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To: P.O.E.

Yes, all kinds of pork.

Like Food Stamps and other social services rolled into the “farm” bill.


61 posted on 07/12/2018 6:16:45 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: P.O.E.

The so-called farm bill is always loaded with all kinds of pork.

Yes like Food Stamps and WIC


62 posted on 07/12/2018 6:24:21 AM PDT by BobinIL
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To: reaganaut1

The dems have used the public coffers to buy votes forever. I don’t care. This is all second tier stuff to me.


63 posted on 07/12/2018 6:24:38 AM PDT by BRL
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To: Phillyred
The trade “war” was already on, we were just not firing back!

Bingo!. . .exactly!

64 posted on 07/12/2018 6:28:01 AM PDT by McBuff (To be, rather than to seem)
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To: central_va

So what? Why do I give sh!t about pig farmers, one of the biggest employers of illegal and imported stoop labor?

Obviously you have never worked on a pig farm. I am against hiring illegals to do any work but your average couch potato video game playing american teenager wouldn’t last 2 hours working on a pig farm.


65 posted on 07/12/2018 6:29:32 AM PDT by BobinIL
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To: mplc51

Farmers will go broke in masses in next 2 years.

You are correct. current prices for corn and soybeans are at or below cost of Production


66 posted on 07/12/2018 6:33:00 AM PDT by BobinIL
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To: BobinIL

Not for $6-8/hr or less. At $15-$20 though, you could get legit labor.


67 posted on 07/12/2018 6:34:31 AM PDT by rb22982
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To: reaganaut1
Lying, commie traitor Wall Street Journal and lying, commie traitor special interests. Let the Trump Administration finish its work, and give at least 3 years' time for Americans to benefit from it.

Smithfield Foods
Wikipedia
[Excerpts:]
Smithfield Foods, Inc., is a meat-processing company and wholly owned subsidiary of WH Group of China...

In addition to the over 500 farms Smithfield owns in the United States, another 2,000 independent contract farms around the country grow Smithfield's pigs.[4] Outside the U.S., the company has facilities in Mexico, Poland, Romania, Germany and the UK.[5] Globally the company employed 50,200 in 2016 and reported an annual revenue of $14 billion.[2] Its 973,000-square-foot meat-processing plant in Tar Heel, North Carolina, was reported in 2000 to be the world's largest, processing 32,000 pigs a day.[6]

Then known as Shuanghui Group, WH Group purchased Smithfield Foods in 2013 for $4.72 billion, more than its market value.[7] It was the largest Chinese acquisition of an American company to date.[8] The acquisition of Smithfield's 146,000 acres of land made WH Group, headquartered in Luohe, Henan province, one of the largest overseas owners of American farmland.[9]


68 posted on 07/12/2018 6:35:44 AM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: Beagle8U

A huge amount of globalist BS comes form Canada also.


69 posted on 07/12/2018 6:35:59 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: central_va

“So you ignorant < expletive deleted > you quote the Bible but have no clue as to the status of unions in the USA. STHU loser. Go away.”

Spoken like a true Union thug.


70 posted on 07/12/2018 6:36:32 AM PDT by Oklahoma
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To: rb22982

Not for $6-8/hr or less. At $15-$20 though, you could get legit labor.

Nope they wont work for that either. And that pushes expenses up above the level of return and we loose money and go out of business so no one gets any bacon.


71 posted on 07/12/2018 6:37:49 AM PDT by BobinIL
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To: mplc51
Farmers will go broke in masses in next 2 years.

Corporate conglomerate farms NEVER go broke.

Over the last 40 years I never saw the WSJ lament the closing of one US factory. NOT ONCE!

72 posted on 07/12/2018 6:39:00 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: BobinIL

Yes, they will. I have worked in retail and hospitality my entire life - mostly in corporate management - and at $15-20/hr you can get legit quality labor just about everywhere but SF, LA, NYC and Boston


73 posted on 07/12/2018 6:39:24 AM PDT by rb22982
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To: BobinIL

And as the price of bacon, etc goes up, production will also go up. Aggra is already massively subsidized - both directly with subsidies - and indirectly with food stamps.


74 posted on 07/12/2018 6:40:25 AM PDT by rb22982
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To: reaganaut1

American farmers grow plenty of corn and soybeans - highly mechanized and land-intensive products

America grows nowhere near enough to meet the nation’s demand for fruits and vegetables - very labor intensive products.


75 posted on 07/12/2018 6:41:33 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Oklahoma

Again you show your ignorance as to the status of unions in the USA.. You are reprobate. Go away you craven fool.


76 posted on 07/12/2018 6:42:17 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: central_va

It cost farmers $450 and acre to plant corn
200 bushels an acre yield @ 3.00 per to sell

Now you have rent or mortgage payment

Real Math


77 posted on 07/12/2018 6:42:54 AM PDT by mplc51
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To: reaganaut1

Uh. NO. Farms have enough support already with the whole ethanol mess and other abused programs. Around here fed money is like christmas. Everybody gets in on the act somehow.


78 posted on 07/12/2018 6:43:00 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To: Drango

“but you can’t help all the people hurt by the new tariffs.”

How about all the many more people hurt by not having tariffs, do you give a rats ass about them??


79 posted on 07/12/2018 6:43:24 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: mplc51

If farmers cant stay in business then they should go out of businesses and get real jobs.


80 posted on 07/12/2018 6:43:56 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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