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Charles Oakley arrested for allegedly cheating at casino
New York Post ^ | July 12, 2018 | Mark W. Sanchez

Posted on 07/12/2018 10:38:13 AM PDT by EveningStar

Another bad turn for Charles Oakley.

The Knicks icon was arrested at a Las Vegas casino on Sunday, TMZ Sports reported, for allegedly trying to cheat while gambling.

Oakley “was suspected of adding to or reducing his wager on a gambling game after the outcome was known,” officials from the Nevada Gaming Board told the website.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: charlesoakley; lasvegas
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To: bankwalker

hardly any secrets in professional gambling. Those casinos are expert in reading human behavior, eye movement, fin gets moving, facial expressions. I think card counting is the number one reason people are 86’d.

I worked prisons for 28 years. I remember an old timer that could tell you from watching an inmate for 15 seconds, he’s up to something, he’s holding (has a shank) and so on.


21 posted on 07/12/2018 11:11:05 AM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Build Kate's Wall)
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To: TADSLOS

Counting cards is a skill, not cheating.


I agree, but as you say, casinos take a dim view of people consistently winning.


22 posted on 07/12/2018 11:12:14 AM PDT by hanamizu
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To: bankwalker

How can they tell if you’re counting cards? Are they mind readers?

They have their shoes and socks off


23 posted on 07/12/2018 11:12:52 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: dainbramaged
To be fair, it hasn't taken much to be an icon on the Knicks in years.

Oakley was a very good player by any objective measure, but on the Knicks you can credibly say he was the best player they had since Bernard King in the 1980s.

24 posted on 07/12/2018 11:19:14 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I saw a werewolf drinking a pina colada at Trader Vic's.")
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To: EveningStar

He isn’t in a shallow ravine in the middle of the Nevada desert?

Wow, Vegas has gone soft!


25 posted on 07/12/2018 11:19:28 AM PDT by freedumb2003 ("please pass the winnamins" (/Principled on 6/27/2018))
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To: bankwalker

Betting patterns are the obvious sign of card counting. Casinos pretty
much know when you do it.


26 posted on 07/12/2018 11:20:35 AM PDT by cornfedcowboy
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To: EveningStar

27 posted on 07/12/2018 11:22:20 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: hanamizu

Counting cards isn’t illegal.


28 posted on 07/12/2018 11:27:10 AM PDT by subterfuge (RIP T.P.)
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To: bankwalker
"How can they tell if you’re counting cards? Are they mind readers?"

by your betting patterns.

29 posted on 07/12/2018 11:35:10 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: Leaning Right
Indeed so.

As soon as you see the pit boss roll up to the table with or without a new dealer, your time is about up. I don't recall if they still shut down the tables in some circumstances or not.

30 posted on 07/12/2018 11:36:01 AM PDT by thescourged1
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To: EveningStar

Dealing 6 decks from a shoe, shuffle up before it is half way through, counting becomes useless.

I noticed that the casinos sell books on how to count cards in the gift shop. I came to the conclusion that the casino would be OK if you try, but few really can.


31 posted on 07/12/2018 11:41:15 AM PDT by super7man (Madam Defarge, knitting, knitting, always knitting)
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To: EveningStar

I have been to casino hotels 5 to 10 times on business. Once I retire, I will never go there. Absolutely hate the places.

Same thing with some of the entertainment places for kids where kids earn coupons from games. Grooming future gamblers.


32 posted on 07/12/2018 11:47:13 AM PDT by alternatives? (Why have an army if there are no borders?)
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To: hanamizu

Betting pattern.


33 posted on 07/12/2018 11:49:25 AM PDT by KyCats
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I’ve heard that too- casino’s have an amazing amount of security and cameras EVERYWHERE.

Except if you start shooting out of one of their windows. Then there’s no cameras recording any of that.


34 posted on 07/12/2018 11:57:13 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing Obamacare is worse than Obamacare itself.)
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To: Leaning Right
Because that technique works.

Only at single-deck - which is just about impossible to find in Vegas, these days. Most tables now use eight decks.

35 posted on 07/12/2018 12:03:52 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: Mr. Jeeves

It’s in the betting pattern. Counters will bet more as the deck plays out.


36 posted on 07/12/2018 12:07:57 PM PDT by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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To: bankwalker

You can be banned for that very minuscule chance that you are able to affect the the chance odds of the game by “card counting”, but it’s really just a movie thing in all practicality, but it “can be done under the correct circumstances”. That is why casinos have a six-deck caddy. In the old days the smart folks could have won by mathematics when playing blackjack.

I miss the excitement of the casino floor...


37 posted on 07/12/2018 12:13:42 PM PDT by lefty-lie-spy (Stay metal. For the Horde \m/("_")\m/ - via iPhone from Tokyo.)
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To: cuban leaf

“Usually it’s really easy to cheat at casino’s because nobody’s ever watching your hands.”

Except the trained dealer, the floor man, and about 50 video cameras.


38 posted on 07/12/2018 1:19:59 PM PDT by Pirate Ragnar
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To: Leaning Right

My late brother was a card counter. He got caught at one casino in Vegas. A couple of large and extremely polite men spoke to him. Gave him vouchers for meals, and a show ticket. Told him he was very welcome to play any of the games the casino had with the exception of blackjack.

He said he could only do it for about an hour before he needed to take a break. Mentally it apparently is very challenging.


39 posted on 07/12/2018 2:07:05 PM PDT by cpdiii (Cane Cutter, Roughneck, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist: THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: Alberta's Child

Oakley was nowhere near as good as Patrick Ewing.


40 posted on 07/12/2018 2:12:08 PM PDT by EEGator
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