[papertyger]

I see my point of view is alien to you but isn't that actually the purpose of places like FR? For trying to express my belief system honestly so that we might better understand each other, and both gain in the exercise you accuse me of duplicity. I can only be myself, I can be no other.

Your “point of view” happens to be the status quo. Therefore, it is very easy for you to presume your point is made without ever actually making it.

The only way for me to break through your presumption is do demonstrate where your position violates universal norms of logic and reason, not to make fancy insults (as you seem to believe is my motivation).

FR is indeed the place to discuss such differences, but it requires discussion, not rote repetition of the cliches underpinning the status quo.

[JayGalt]

You are funny. I’m not going to play anymore. I think you are wrong; you think I’m wrong and that is the status quo. I think your position is illogical; I’m sure you think mine the same. We have been unable to communicate but I bear you no ill will.
It is a unique experience for me and that is in some ways a good thing.