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To: vette6387

Civics 101 is a lost thing apparently.

The US Constitution formed a representative republic, wherein the power to legislate comes directly and only from the people via elected officers; each state admitted to the union is required to have “republican” form of state government too, and every state constitution requires all subordinate political groups to be formed of the same manner- the people choosing people to write and enforce laws and be accountable to them.

Hence, the people are the “posse comitatus” or the power of the land”, the government is simply and solely the arm of that will.

It is well within the purview of the “people” or in some cases, a “person” to uphold the law and will of the people as in this example.

Perhaps LEOs and all other government entities/employees need to be exposed to this simple but profound principle.

Now, to the event at hand, notice how the LEOs make the assumption that everyone with a firearm is a potential bad guy, and perhaps from their perspective, justifiably so.

So, what to do if and when you are the good guy on the scene and it is culminating with the arrival of the police? Well, be certain to quickly ID yourself as a good guy. Put your firearm away as soon as you can. Re-holster or place it on the ground and step on it or something to assure the police or any other armed persons that you are not the threat. Don’t wait for conflicting instructions- place your hands in a very non-threatening posture-like on top of your heard or in the common “surrender with my hands up” position, concisely ID yourself as a good guy and then make eye contact with one officer and talk directly to him, yeah, him. Ask him what he wants you to do and do it. Tell the officer(s) concisely what you need to tell him and then shut up. The witnesses and forensic/physical evidence will tell the whole story eventually.

Yeah, lawyer up soonest, they do and for good reason.


29 posted on 07/14/2018 5:39:48 AM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: Manly Warrior
lawyer up soonest, they do and for good reason.

Long before any situation develops go to USCCA.COM and buy a membership.

32 posted on 07/14/2018 6:03:56 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Make American Intelligence Great Again.)
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To: Manly Warrior

Good Info...
Thanks


36 posted on 07/14/2018 7:21:12 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY)
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To: Manly Warrior

Pretty good advice, thanks.

LEO first priority is to control the situation not figure out what happened.

Although, I disagree with telling them you are a good guy. Just follow your advice to be nonthreatening and make eye contact and follow their directions. They will get around to asking what happened.


37 posted on 07/14/2018 7:30:33 AM PDT by joshua c (To disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives. Do nothing and we lose.)
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To: Manly Warrior

Yeah, a bad incident happened recently where a guy was breaking up a fight, and had dropped his pistol, then when the police showed up he insisted on picking it up. It ended in awful tragedy.


41 posted on 07/14/2018 8:59:11 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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