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Russia moving into Libya
Washington Times ^ | Jul 2018 | Bill Gertz

Posted on 07/15/2018 8:47:36 AM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege

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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Donald Trump: 'Putin has eaten Obama's lunch, therefore our lunch, for a long period of time'

Mar 13, 2014
Eun Kyung Kim: TODAY SHOW (NBC)

Donald Trump slammed President Obama Thursday on TODAY for failing to take a stronger line against President Vladimir Putin in dealing with Ukraine, saying he feared Obama would now make up for lost time with imprudent moves to "show his manhood."

The real estate mogul and reality-TV star, who has criticized Putin for sending military troops into Crimea, said Obama must now take fierce steps to prevent the situation from escalating further.

"We should definitely do sanctions and we have to show some strengths. I mean, Putin has eaten Obama's lunch, therefore our lunch, for a long period of time," Trump said. ..."

http://www.today.com/news/donald-trump-putin-has-eaten-obamas-lunch-ukraine-2D79372098
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Here’s the interview w/ Matt Lauer on YouTube...

Donald Trump (2014): ‘Vladimir Putin Has Eaten Obama’s Lunch’:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzURUENf1ns

21 posted on 07/15/2018 9:44:16 AM PDT by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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To: A_perfect_lady
I never understood why the Obama regime went after Ghadafi. Why? They had fits when we ousted Saddam Hussein and “destabilized” Iraq, why are they suddenly going after dictators who were his equivalent?

Because Qaddafi shifted his tactics from violence to successful Economic and Banking opposition to Western Globalists, resulting in a reasonably stable Libya.

22 posted on 07/15/2018 9:47:43 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (America NEEDS Mob Rule, another European and Mid East World War and a universal Draft)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Mike Pence on Putin and Russia:
(from the VP debate on Oct 5, 2016)

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“What we’re dealing with is the — you know, there’s an old proverb that says the Russian bear never dies, it just hibernates.

And the truth of the matter is, the weak and feckless foreign policy of Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama has awakened an aggression in Russia that first appeared a few years ago with their move in Georgia, now their move into Crimea, now their move into the wider Middle East.


23 posted on 07/15/2018 9:51:17 AM PDT by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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To: ETL

I trust Trump.


24 posted on 07/15/2018 9:52:31 AM PDT by rrrod (just an old guy with a gun in his pocket)
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To: Navy Patriot

The more I think about it, the more I realize this was a travesty and a horror far above and beyond what I’d previously thought. Obama really was on the side of Muslim extremists. I always kind of hoped that was just hyperbole on our side... tell you what, if Putin did meddle in our elections to prevent Hillary from continuing on this path, he did a good thing. He didn’t just do the US a favor. He did the whole world a favor.


25 posted on 07/15/2018 9:55:51 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: piasa
You don't think those were just ragheads that attacked us in Benghazi, do you?

One can't help but suspect that it was well planned and executed by Libyan forces that did not much like that weapons were on their way to Syria from Benghazi. One also has to wonder if they might have been forces that weren't real thrilled with the US still choosing winners and losers.

26 posted on 07/15/2018 9:57:04 AM PDT by grania (President Trump, stop believing the Masters of War!)
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To: piasa

Benghazi was a CIA / State operation to supply Syrian jihadis. There’s nothing honorable about it. It was a nest of treason supporting the people who attacked us on 9/11. Benghazi is literally where we switch sides and began supporting black flag waving Al-Qeida


27 posted on 07/15/2018 9:58:14 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

The recent trend seems to be that US/Western globalist/progressives break stuff in the Mideast or Southern Europe, and then Russia, Iran or others step in to control what remains


28 posted on 07/15/2018 10:02:16 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

McCain, Graham and Rubio all supported the Kenyanesian Usurper in his illegal war in Libya and arming of jihadists.


29 posted on 07/15/2018 10:06:26 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: DoughtyOne
No doubt about Rubio
30 posted on 07/15/2018 10:10:00 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
"Libya represents the most recent failure stemming from the policies of President Obama"

This all depends on how you look at it. From an "Arab Spring" point of view The destruction of Libya's stable government and the ensuing Kaos that has opened the gates to the islamic jihad into Europe has been successful beyond their fondest dreams. To undo that will leave most of Western Europe and parts of North America looking like Aleppo.

31 posted on 07/15/2018 10:12:34 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: dfwgator
“We Came, We Saw, He Died.”

Never forget the wicked witch cackle that follows that statement.

32 posted on 07/15/2018 10:14:59 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Thanks. I thought so, but didn’t remember him clearly. I appreciate you clearing that up.


33 posted on 07/15/2018 10:15:17 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Take a look out there folks. Can you see evidence of a Left Wing Hate Group, perhaps fascist too?)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Russia is overextended.

https://en.crimerussia.com/gover/government-implements-unpopular-reforms-during-2018-fifa-world-cup/

https://russiabusinesstoday.com/manufacturing/russia-cancels-serial-production-of-su-57-jet-fighter/

https://arstechnica.com/science/2018/07/russian-editor-our-space-program-is-entering-the-dark-ages/

http://www.businessinsider.com/russia-building-up-military-base-in-kaliningrad-near-suwalki-gap-2018-7

That spells trouble for everybody else.


34 posted on 07/15/2018 10:20:09 AM PDT by ameribbean expat
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
While I acknowledge the focus on Obama’s failures, I am more concerned that Putin is plotting to strategically undermine The United States. I can image a scenario where Russia moves gradually into areas of Africa and using it to provoke the US while stirring racial tensions. We could see extremist from several racial groups use it to agitate public fears. When certain groups warn of a race war, this is will become the self fulfillment of their own prophecy.
35 posted on 07/15/2018 10:20:11 AM PDT by jmclemore (Go Trump)
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To: A_perfect_lady; DoughtyOne; Navy Patriot

Interesting. (I’ve long-heard it was because of their oil and money)

The April 2011 email, sent to the Secretary of State Hillary by unofficial adviser and longtime Clinton confidante Sidney Blumenthal with the subject line “France’s client and Qaddafi’s gold,” reveals predatory Western intentions.

The emails indicate the French-led NATO military initiative in Libya was also driven by a desire to gain access to a greater share of Libyan oil production, and to undermine a long term plan by Gaddafi to supplant France as the dominant power in the Francophone Africa region.

Source:

https://thefreethoughtproject.com/declassified-emails-reveal-natos-true-motive-topple-gaddafi-stop-creation-gold-backed-african-currency/


36 posted on 07/15/2018 10:24:10 AM PDT by Original Lurker
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To: Mariner

G.W. Bush started the war in Iraq over claims his father was the target of Iraqi agents in Kuwait when the old man toured there. It was all about payback. Then Obama and Clinton overthrow Gaddafi. Where do we get these IDIOTS. Sadly our military deployed and operated like total idiots entering Iraq.


37 posted on 07/15/2018 10:24:34 AM PDT by Lumper20 (Dems rarely serve in combat.)
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To: DoughtyOne

I seems to me that the West, in general, had a policy of containment since WWII that included tacitly propping up Arab dictators, who in return would try to keep their insane Muslim fanatics in check. From time to time those Dictators failed and the West punished them accordingly but for the most part it worked.

0bama celebrated and facilitated the Arab Spring which destabilized the entire region.

Islam’s long war against the West was unleashed.

It also seems to me that the new policy for some in the West was to arm certain factions of Islam, Sunni or Shiite, and let them focus their efforts killing each other.

A big problem that many in the West do not understand about Islam is that of a Nation State. Islam does not recognize the borders of a State. They only recognize Islam and believe they are entitled to the entire world.


38 posted on 07/15/2018 10:24:39 AM PDT by Zeneta
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To: A_perfect_lady
Obama really was on the side of Muslim extremists.

More than that, the entire American Left, Rinos, MSM and Deep Swamp are too.

All their agendas and power rely on continued instability.

Putin and Russia did not meddle in US elections any more than the US (Intelligence Agencies) and US/Euro NGO's meddled in numerous Foreign Elections. They all conducted Intelligence gathering and Fake News operations against each other since the turn of the TWENTIETH Century. What's new is that the Western MSM got sloppy and has degenerated to nothing but Propaganda, Fake News and False Flags in the last two decades.

Crisis and Instability is ALL they have to continue their power (to influence), so now they create that Crisis and Instability when it won't happen where they want it.

Putin is simply trying to stabilize areas near Russia and maintain Russian influence in those areas, as it is beneficial to Russians to do so, and benefits elsewhere are simply consequences.

Remember, Ronald Reagan solved the Soviet Union problem by stabilizing Europe and Eastern Europe (for a while), so the Globalist Rats had to destabilize it again and used the Middle East to do it.

39 posted on 07/15/2018 10:47:36 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (America NEEDS Mob Rule, another European and Mid East World War and a universal Draft)
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To: Telepathic Intruder
“Hey I’ve got a Peace Prize, so that should cause peace, right?”

That's right up there with "I have a pen and a phone ...."

40 posted on 07/15/2018 10:49:18 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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