Posted on 07/17/2018 7:50:43 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
That is BS. Domestic companies have to compete with each other. The same mechanism that apply to trade with others countries applies to domestic manufacturers. What you are saying is you have no faith in the American economic system to produce the best products for Americans. I don't call them Free Traitors for nothing, it's well deserved moniker.
Not BS. Look at the auto industry in the 30 years after WW2. No, of course they weren’t protected...they didn’t have to be, we (or the Germans or the Russians) bombed their competitors’ factories into dust, and pretty much devastated their economies to the point that they couldn’t produce any decent autos for several decades.
So, what did this tariff-by-bomb produce here? GM, Ford and Chrysler DID compete with each other...to see who could produce the crappiest cars and still sell them to the American public. OK, so that’s a bit of an exaggeration...but not by much, since the Germans and Japanese came along in the late ‘70s and ‘80s, and damned near drove all of Detroit into bankruptcy. The simple fact is that even with competition, having a tariff or other barrier to entry for competition (even a barrier created by cratering your competition’s factories) produces LESS competition. The Big 3 are not the first, nor will they be the last, to act in this manner - aided and abetted by their own collusion, and their lobbyists in DC.
Again, I’m for consumption taxes leveled evenly on all participants, as opposed to income taxes. But tariffs produce only short-term benefits for domestic companies, while shorting the consumer. They are best used, IMHO, to get foreigners to reduce their own tariffs, so as to really allow the free market to work (which would lead, IMHO, to a great deal of prosperity here, as I most certainly DO have lots of faith in the abilities of our economic system).
Same broken Free Traitor goo flowing from your finger tips. A broken record, the same old tired song. Go away back under your rock.
Stop with the “Free Traitor” shit. I’m for free trade, but ONLY if it is truly free in both directions. If not (and it usually isn’t) - well, that’s what tariffs are for. I’m very much like Trump, in that I’d prefer free trade, but I’m not so naive as to fall for mere academic theories as a means of determining policy.
As for the auto industry, they did have union problems. So why didn’t they MASSIVELY shut down factories and build new ones in non-union states? IMHO, the reason is that they didn’t really care, they were fine with the status quo (which included paying huge dividends to shareholders, rather than plowing a bunch of that money back into R&D and quality control. Had they done that, the Germans and Japanese would never have made a dent in our market...we’d have been a constantly moving target.
The auto industry is NOT the entire manufacturing sector. Stop it.
Of course not...but it was emblematic of ANY large and mature industry. The only thing that has improved autos so much is competition - now they’re actually competing against each other, not just the furriners.
FYI, my 2015 Chevy Impala - with a smallish V-6 and an automatic - is WAY faster than my ‘69 GTO; it is on par with the GTO Judge with the Ram Air IV engine and a 4-speed. It handles way better, brakes better, is certainly quieter, is more reliable, will last longer, won’t have its body rust out (thanks, zinc coating), gets twice the mileage while doing all of that, and has all kinds of modern conveniences - all for about the same inflation-adjusted price. The preceding 45 years of technological progress - induced by competition - is responsible for that. In the 20 or so years before my GTO was made, there was very little technological progress that found its way into automobiles that regular consumers could buy - because of the LACK of competition. Nash was far ahead of his time - but the Big 3 killed him off because they didn’t want to have to upgrade everything. They got away with it until about 1975 - because Japan and Germany were lots bigger than Nash.
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