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Another Look at Mass Shootings, and How They Can Be Prevented
© 2018 New York State Bar Association ^ | By Margaret Finerty

Posted on 07/18/2018 9:00:15 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines

Edited on 07/18/2018 10:00:49 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

The New York State Bar Association (NYSBA) has always been at the forefront of issues that are critical to the welfare of our state and our country. This year, NYSBA will return to an issue that continues to be a scourge of our society - the prevalence of gun violence and mass shootings in the United States.


(Excerpt) Read more at nysba.org ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: banglist
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1 posted on 07/18/2018 9:00:15 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

So a bunch of tavern owners think they have an answer? Have another beer fellas and gals. ;-)


2 posted on 07/18/2018 9:02:48 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
"So tell me...how many of the people who buy these 'assault' weapons use them legally and safely?"

"In excess of 99.99%."

"They're obviously far too dangerous for the average American. Ban them."

Gun grabber "logic".

3 posted on 07/18/2018 9:08:07 AM PDT by Simon Green ("Arm your daughter, sir, and pay no attention to petty bureaucrats.")
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Mentally unstable individuals should not possess or own firearms.

People who own or possess firearms are mentally unstable.

There you have the next track on gun control in America. It's Eric Holder's by the way. Steady, slow, consistent messaging in schools, media, grants, even healthcare providers.

4 posted on 07/18/2018 9:10:41 AM PDT by blackdog
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

“...the prevalence of gun violence and mass shootings in the United States.”

This statement discredits the entire article. It removes responsibility from the individual and places it on the gun. Bad gun...no cookie. We kind of know why that is, but it upsets people, so we just continue to get shot up, rather than hurt someone’s feelings or question the viability of their “culture”.


5 posted on 07/18/2018 9:12:07 AM PDT by bk1000 (I stand with Trump)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
been at the forefront of issues that are critical to the welfare of our state and our country.

Ha! You got me! This is from the Onion, right?

6 posted on 07/18/2018 9:12:58 AM PDT by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the Disco)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

The problem is not that complicated.

1. Inhibit the nexus between the violently deranged and weapons.

2. Harden the entry control points at kill zones that concentrate targets.

3. Gunshot detectors are readily available, proven to work and can be networked to identify a shooter location in seconds, anywhere. They could trigger: much faster responses, email alerts in that area, lockdowns, alarms, etc.

Stopping the deranged from killing is like fighting earthquakes. The best we can do is minimize the damage.


7 posted on 07/18/2018 9:25:09 AM PDT by gandalftb
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
The New York State Bar Association (NYSBA) has always been at the forefront of issues that are critical to the welfare of our state and our country.

lol ...

This year, NYSBA will return to an issue that continues to be a scourge of our society - the prevalence of gun violence and mass shootings in the United States.

lol ...

The newly formed Task Force on Mass Shootings and Assault Weapons will consider ...
1. the connection between mental health and mass shootings;
2. the relationship between domestic violence and mass shootings; and
3. government oversight of assault weapons and accessories, consistent with constitutional protection of a person's right to possess guns, to prevent the plague of mass shootings devastating our country.

Wanna bet the study will give lip service to 1 and 2, with a focus on 3.

The task force will make appropriate recommendations aimed at decreasing the occurrence of mass shootings in our country. In particular, it will explore ...
a. the potential effectiveness of enhanced waiting periods and enhanced background checks;
b. uniformity of rules regarding purchases in stores and at gun shows;
c. whether private sellers should be required to conduct background checks on the domestic violence registry; and
d. federal and state regulation of assault weapons and related accessories such as large ammunition magazines, "bump stocks" and other devices.

Like I said ...

Our country no longer locks mentally ill people up ... they drug them and set them free into society. THIS is the problem ...

8 posted on 07/18/2018 9:54:45 AM PDT by dartuser
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“...the prevalence of gun violence and mass shootings in the United States.”

Uh, yeah, "gun violence" doesn't really figure into mass stabbings or mass killings by driving vehicles into crowds, or terrorists crashing planes into buildings.

9 posted on 07/18/2018 10:19:31 AM PDT by nuke_road_warrior (Making the world safe for nuclear power for over 20 years)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Sue the victims - if they weren't there they wouldn't have gotten shot.

Full_Retard

10 posted on 07/18/2018 10:35:50 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: rktman

I assume the part about tavern owner was joke right?


11 posted on 07/18/2018 10:39:12 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines (Their side circles the wagons. Our side revs up the bus.)
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To: blackdog

That’s why we should continue to resist allowing “gun violence” to be treated as a “public health” issue. The left has a proven track record of politicizing the medical profession. Just look at what they’ve done with “transgenderism,” turning psychiatrists away from providing desperately-needed treatment for a horrible mental illness in order to further the left’s agenda of post-modern sexual politics and the creation of new victim constituencies.


12 posted on 07/18/2018 11:13:39 AM PDT by The Pack Knight
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Note that there that for a document (manifesto?) published by an association of lawyers, there is almost nothing in there about law.

Of course, the NYSBA gave us its view of the law in the report of its “Task Force on Gun Violence,” referenced in this article. I read about all of that report I could stand, and of course they get the history of the Second Amendment completely wrong and give a disingenuously-narrow interpretation of Heller in an attempt to give liberal judges a road map to ignore it.


13 posted on 07/18/2018 11:23:50 AM PDT by The Pack Knight
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Oh,goodie! A bunch of New York personal injury lawyers are gonna tell us how to end gun violence.I wonder if it has anything to do with suing every gun maker on earth to the point of bankruptcy.
14 posted on 07/18/2018 4:33:54 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (You Say "White Privilege"...I Say "Protestant Work Ethic")
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To: SkyDancer
Fear not...DiFi is soon to be history,thanks to some half Hispanic,half black,half Pacific Islander,half transgendered biped who calls her a reactionary Klan member.
15 posted on 07/18/2018 4:36:49 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (You Say "White Privilege"...I Say "Protestant Work Ethic")
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
I just glanced through the piece; however I saw nothing about SSRIs and nothing about illegal aliens and nothing about muslim terrorists.

Did I just miss these critical attributes?

16 posted on 07/18/2018 7:33:03 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...excepto for convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

A rather large portion of our population has had minor neuroses and domestic violence problems related to drug or alcohol problems. For some, those difficulties are only temporary preceding a return to lucidity.

We’re not going to “stop” violence or other human troubles. This world won’t be perfect in the Greco-Roman sense. Common sense dictates it. Considering the size of our population, we’re doing pretty good. Continuing towards implementing a police state is not a good solution and will lead to much more monstrous suffering.

By the way, various state bar associations were also in favor of feminist laws for implementing the divorce, cohabitation and fatherlessness paradigm that led to many of the mass murders resulting from spoiling children. Remember the warnings during the 1990s about super predators being reared by broken families and warped social interactions between parents (some family members spoiled by weakened authority within families). As we see, those warnings were correct.


17 posted on 07/18/2018 7:53:52 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: Seaplaner

The NYSBA has actually spent the last month recruiting volunteer attorneys to sue the USA to allow illegals to stay.


18 posted on 07/18/2018 8:10:11 PM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines (Their side circles the wagons. Our side revs up the bus.)
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Someone should tell these folk, fat, dumb and communist is no way to go through life.


19 posted on 07/19/2018 1:00:55 AM PDT by exnavy (America: love it or leave it.)
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Why dont we go after privileges of the deranged first? You know, like drive a car or run for office as Obama did?

Taking guns away from them without due process is taking a right away akin to putting someone in prison.


20 posted on 07/19/2018 9:14:57 PM PDT by lavaroise
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