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Marine still fightsback: Ahead Of Trial, Judge Upholds VA Policy (Opioids)
The Greenville Sun ^ | Jul 18, 2018 | Ken Little Staff Writer

Posted on 07/20/2018 5:05:50 AM PDT by GailA

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To: rlmorel

I can relate. I have a high pain tolerance and an equivalent insensitivity to pain medication. Most just don’t work on me. When I’ve had to get stitched up, they generally have to give me twice the regular amount of anesthetic. Sometimes I just don’t say anything and go ahead—it’s unpleasant, but not as bad as having the doctor look at you like a whiner.

It makes for a very awkward situation when you go to the doctor and say pain meds aren’t working. You’re automatically assumed to be an addict or dealing. At least, that’s what I’ve felt—even though it’s in my records. It’s almost funny, since I prefer not to take anything.

My wife is the opposite—she can get loopy with a fraction of a regular dose. Sometimes, I wish we could switch responses.


41 posted on 07/20/2018 9:29:09 AM PDT by antidisestablishment ( Xenophobia is the only sane response to multiculturalismÂ’s irrational cultural exuberance)
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To: GailA; Lazamataz

Calling Laz for help with this plea for a CDC contact!


42 posted on 07/20/2018 9:29:43 AM PDT by luvie (The bravery and dedication of our troops in keeping us safe & free make me proud to be an American!)
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To: rlmorel

“””Sorry to blather on with this, but the back is like a tooth, when it aches, it can take over your life, which is what mine has done.”””””””””””

Yeah, I think I can relate to that. I have spondylolithesis, spondylolis, some scoliosis, stuff like that. Spent a lifetime in the construction business. I have never been able to go bowling because the twisting would put me on the ground.
I sit down a lot now because standing for any length of time sucks. I could have surgery if I wanted to stare at the ceiling for six months. A physical therapy regimen is best if it is actually followed. I won’t go the pain pill route because I would feel better but be stoned all the time.


43 posted on 07/20/2018 9:34:00 AM PDT by shelterguy
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To: LUV W

I’m not at the CDC any more.

From all the reports I hear, it’s a Walking Dead site now.


44 posted on 07/20/2018 9:34:37 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The New York Times is so openly dishonest, even their crossword puzzles lie.)
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To: shelterguy

LOL, everyone I know keeps trying to convince me to use a standing desk, but I have to explain to them that standing IS a problem for me, I am always looking to sit down.

What is that old saying they have in the military:

Never run when you can walk.
Never walk when you can stand.
Never stand when you can sit.
Never sit when you can lay down.
Never lay down when you can sleep.

Or something like that...


45 posted on 07/20/2018 10:03:00 AM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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To: mabarker1

Don’t bother trying to reason with the anti-pain medication creeps on this thread. They’re morally superior to people who need pain medication/sarc


46 posted on 07/20/2018 10:24:28 AM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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To: Flaming Conservative
But, But... I JUST GOTTA BE ME!!!

I go with the logic of if you don’t Vote Ya got no right to bitch.

Well I VOTE AND I’M GONNA BITCH WHEN I BELIEVE THAT IT’S NEEDED😜

47 posted on 07/20/2018 10:48:25 AM PDT by mabarker1 (congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!!)
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To: PrairieLady2

My 2 February ER Trips I got 1 mg Dilauded, general pain was not the main issue. GASTRO was, 2 CT’s both with wrong diagnosis, wrong antibiotics. When the APN refused to fill my Valium which controlled the Gastropresis spasms, it allowed the valves between the to intestines to not close properly, it was like having labor pains as the spasms rolled through, and the Colon bacteria got into the Small Intestine, and caused Bacterial Overgrowth which they call SIBO which takes a very specific antibiotic for the GI tract. Not the Diverticulitis or UT they said I had. Blood Pressure was out of control because of the pain. 1 Mg Dilauded would not even bring the Hypertension head pain down. And it sure wasn’t going to work on Gastro Spasms. That takes Valium 10 mg and Lomotil 5 mg.


48 posted on 07/20/2018 10:49:31 AM PDT by GailA (Ret. SCPO Wife: suck it up buttercups it's President Donald Trump!)
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To: House Atreides

The attorneys normally set the amount of the lawsuits. They know the bigger hammer they yield, the more likely the other side will seek to settle the case. Just be glad you are not suing for damages, I am sure you would seek every penny you suffered for. I worked in legal for over 35 years. Until you have walked in the client’s shoes, you do not know the level of the suffering. I have seen some terrific suffering and they deserved every stinking dime they could get and the other side drug the cases on and on and on and on.


49 posted on 07/20/2018 10:53:30 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (We are in the Last Days of human history. Jesus is coming back, & soon! Do U know Him?)
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To: Lazamataz

Hi, Laz! Probably smart of you. Pretty bad when the people we trust with our health have gone to the dark side.

Hope you are well! Are you coming to the shoot this October? We’d sure love to see you!


50 posted on 07/20/2018 10:56:15 AM PDT by luvie (The bravery and dedication of our troops in keeping us safe & free make me proud to be an American!)
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To: LUV W
Hi, Laz! Probably smart of you. Pretty bad when the people we trust with our health have gone to the dark side.

Meh. Most of them are pretty good, but they were getting 13% funding cuts back in the Obama years. Imagine now!!

Hope you are well! Are you coming to the shoot this October? We’d sure love to see you!

I'd love to be there. BOOP!

I got lots of new toys to show off. :)

51 posted on 07/20/2018 12:20:20 PM PDT by Lazamataz (The New York Times is so openly dishonest, even their crossword puzzles lie.)
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To: mabarker1
Are you positive that He is overweight?

Did you look at his picture? See the huge double chin? The massive gut hanging over his belt?

52 posted on 07/20/2018 3:25:49 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: PAR35

Yes I saw the pic.

IMO that’s not a huge double chin and I’ve seen way bigger guts than that.

Try this:

https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=overweight+people&FORM=HDRSC2&PC=APPL


53 posted on 07/20/2018 3:41:45 PM PDT by mabarker1 (congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!!)
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To: Lazamataz

BOOP!

Then you need to start making plans! :) We do like new toys!


54 posted on 07/20/2018 7:51:30 PM PDT by luvie (The bravery and dedication of our troops in keeping us safe & free make me proud to be an American!)
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To: antidisestablishment

I agree Gail.


55 posted on 07/20/2018 8:47:41 PM PDT by muggs
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To: PAR35
Maybe he could lose weight if he wasn't in too much pain to exercise. I gained 35 pounds when I was in pain mainagement for 5.5 years.

We also don't know if he is on prednisone.

56 posted on 07/20/2018 8:58:18 PM PDT by muggs
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To: PAR35

You ever try and lose weight when the drugs they stick you on cause it? Or you are not capable of walking more than a few feet before your back gives out or your GI tract goes into spasm?

My Gastro diet is minus all FIBER foods as I can’t digest them, that means all carbs and protein. Which I count to keep weight down. Still runs my glucose up no matter how hard I work at it. I’ve not had a apple except in the form of baby food in 5 yrs. Takes 4 hrs to digest 2 eggs and 2 slices of toast, that would take you 1 hr. Result swollen painful colon, impactions that have to be surgically removed. Ribs painfully pushed out of place due to the swelling. That doesn’t even touch the Degenerative spine, damaged heart, which are all caused by their FDA Approved drugs. I’ve not sued any one, dutifully report the drug reactions, not a 1 of the dangerous drugs that are Black Boxed are removed from the market. Still out there damaging more people. Walk the last 30 yrs in my shoes of failed surgery, drug reactions, ER/hospitalizations for those drug reactions, before you make a blanket judgement.

I didn’t chose this life, those dam* FDA drugs did. All I wanted was the Fibro pain and OA pain to stop so I could function. Each one brought more damage for life.

Mr Roe didn’t chose his life of pain either, being old and a Marine did. He is asking for decent care he’s not getting. That VA Center is one of the Worse in TN besides Memphis.


57 posted on 07/22/2018 10:24:15 AM PDT by GailA (Ret. SCPO Wife: suck it up buttercups it's President Donald Trump!)
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To: outofsalt

I judge on results as well as how I’m treated. 1 doc sued a poster for a bad review. So I stopped reviewing, but don’t hesitate to tell others seeking a service to avoid a certain doc. Lost half my hearing to a POS SADISTIC CHEAPSKATE who has a standalone surgery center with a hotel attached to it. Not even an Anthologist, he guessed at the anesthesia Versed you needed. 1 Nurse Pre/Post OP to do IV’s. And a aid who spent more time playing with her hair than working. Top Rated by foot.


58 posted on 07/22/2018 10:29:37 AM PDT by GailA (Ret. SCPO Wife: suck it up buttercups it's President Donald Trump!)
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To: ExTxMarine

TENNESSEE has basically FEW pain clinics, they’ve all but a few have shut down. NOW who is going to treat you? We wanted our Specialist to do so. I don’t trust a Pill Mill with a APN or NP running it, not a doc who doesn’t specialize in Rare diseases as they are the hardest to treat and no Pill Mill can. VA shut pain meds down 3 months before the public. My Gastro testified it was impacting his major GI surgeries. 3 days was not enough for recovery.

I’m a PUKER when it comes to Opioids. But this gets even the Benzo Valium which after a decade I’ve never had a issue with withdrawal, just MORE PAIN driving my damaged heart into high state 2 hypertension, and I’m an a GASTRO patient, and all those Hypertension drugs are GI labeled along with Vision. Damaged my corneas in just 3 months and sent me into a SIBO attack as the Gastropresis spasms weren’t being controlled any more. 2 ER trips, 2 CT’s 2 wrong diagnosis, 2 wrong antibiotics, 5 trips to the Gastro/Neurologist, 3 trips to the Eye Specialist. 3 drug reactions. TORTURE PURE AND SIMPLE. It was cheaper to leave me on a working med for 4 health conditions.


59 posted on 07/22/2018 10:44:13 AM PDT by GailA (Ret. SCPO Wife: suck it up buttercups it's President Donald Trump!)
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To: GailA
Mr Roe didn’t chose his life of pain either, being old and a Marine did.

If you mean the Mr. Rose in the story, 52 isn't old, unless you are a millennial.

If you are talking about the defendant in the frivolous complaint, Congressman Phil Roe, his representative, you'll need to provide more info. He might qualify as old at 72. But he was an US Army infantry major in Korea, not a Marine.

So I'm still not clear what or who you are trying to talk about.

60 posted on 07/22/2018 12:11:17 PM PDT by PAR35
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