Cuomo Admits Abortion Rights Are Not In The Constitution

Daily Caller ^ | 7:57 PM 07/20/2018 | Alan Keyes

[zaxtres]

You clearly have no idea what I wrote and would like to see me condemned to hell because of your lack of comprehension.

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Your words never rang true for yourself. As you point out

“I want babies to live and not be killed. Giving the father a vote in the abortion decision supports the assumption that such killing is acceptable. It isn’t.”

My argument is towards the opposite and yet you go right to the father killing the baby in an abortion. Did you ever consider the father wanting to have the unborn child be born? No, you did not by your posts. The whole point is that should a woman not want her child the father has no say in the matter to the contrary. Your view would be considered extremist because you go to the extreme.

Feminism has taken away the man’s parental rights. If the woman wants an abortion and the man wants the child be born, the law is on the side of the female. If the woman wants the child to be born and man does not, the law is on the side of the female. If both want to have the child, again the law is on the side of the female. If both want to have the abortion the law is on the side of the female. The law gives no voice to male parent. Thank you feminism.

In all cases, the man has no right to have the unborn child to be born, something you say you want. Actually, the argument is saying that the woman’s decision to abort the baby, killing it, is completely unacceptable should the man say he wants the child, not killing the baby. Only in one case where both parents say they do not want the child is the abortion valid. Think of how many more children could have been saved because the man wanted the child to be born and not be killed. Only in one case does the man prevent the abortion from happening. I have never made the assumption nor have I ever said abortion was okay except in the case of a nonconsensual event.

You went to the farthest extreme just like the feminazis want you to go when responding to something like this. And thus taking away the male parental rights to their child. And for that, you should be condemned to the furthest reaches of hell along with the feminazis.

[zaxtres]

I have every idea of what you wrote. You are an extremist and have discounted everything I wrote. Giving a father, which by the way can only become a father by the creation of a baby, duh!, his rights before and after the baby is a stepping stone to an end. With the way public opinion stands today, you would be basically cutting off a smoker addicted to nicotine cold turkey. It doesn’t work like that with this. Not after the 1950’s will back-alley abortions, not after sending pregnant women away from family, not after senseless deaths caused by unclean instruments and I could go on. Where there is a will there is a way. Abortions have been performed since it was found out a baby could be aborted. You will never stop it, ever. So the next logical thing is to greatly reduce it. This can happen if the rights of the father were returned to him before the baby is born. And in America, this denial is the sacrilege portion of this entire subject. Am I evil for wanting to reduce abortions instead of getting rid of them entirely? I never said I did not want to get rid of them entirely. However, I observe and learn. The LGBT movement has shown us the way and we need to follow that example. Go off on your tantrums that abortions should be stopped but people stop listening to you when you go from making it legal to illegal in all cases. That is extreme and a psychologist would say it is bipolar. You have to view the end picture through the long game. This is what the LGBT movement did. Step by step, inch by inch. When you fail, you hit the drawing board. You want to stop abortions, do it gradually, sway the public to where it is not such a big change all at once. Start with the rights of the father and how they have been suppressed. You have to have a bigger strategy in the political arena than going from 0 to 60 in one second. That is what you fail to understand and maybe you never will. Giving the rights to the father to vote on abortion also gives him the right to stop the killing of the unborn. You don’t see that and I feel bad for you. Your negativity is what condemns you to struggle rather than taking small positive steps to the ultimate goal - no abortions.