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To: HamiltonJay

The key point is after the gun was drawn, the dude was retreating.


54 posted on 07/21/2018 11:47:37 AM PDT by TexasGator (Z1)
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To: TexasGator

I don’t agree AT ALL. watch the video. He knocked him down and then started to pull his pants up like he was going in again, then saw the gun and hesitated. his bride got out of the car as soon as she saw him come out of the store too like they were both going to go after Drejka. The thug got what he asked for.


55 posted on 07/21/2018 11:49:49 AM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: TexasGator

the dude was retreating.”””

Was he? I saw the gun back him off but the last thing he did before the freeze frame (they didnt show the shooting) was put a foot forward. It’s way too far away to do more than suppose but he may have been going onto “You ain’t got the ball, honkey” mode.


79 posted on 07/21/2018 12:15:51 PM PDT by TalBlack (It's hard to shoot people when they are shooting back at you...)
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To: TexasGator
The key point is after the gun was drawn, the dude was retreating.

McGlockton was not retreating. He had just advanced two steps after a previous retreat and he hesitated as the gun came out. Then he side-stepped. That was not an "end of the threat".

Meanwhile the girlfriend was making a rapid move at the edge of view. Was she coming to assist in an attack? It would be a "reasonable" assumption under the circumstances.

Drejka was down and could not retreat.

Drejka had (IMO) "reasonable" basis for believing that he was still under threat of imminent death or crippling injury.

McGlockton was still the aggressor in this tableau and was bigger, younger, and stronger than the shooter. That establishes the "disparity of force" that defines a lethal threat.

Drejka fired only one shot at a man who was aggressively facing him as a potentially lethal threat. That establishes "proportionality of response".

The racial component of this incident is the only thing that makes it controversial. If it had been two Blacks or two Whites involved, the discussion would have ended pretty quickly in favor of the shooter.

If the shooter had been Black and the attacker had been White, the shooter would be getting (undeserved) praises as a hero of some kind.

Note: I believe the shooter was probably being an officious jerk. That still does not justify knocking him down and moving to stomp him. And it does not impair the justification of a lethal self-defense shooting.

124 posted on 07/21/2018 12:50:14 PM PDT by flamberge (What next?)
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