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To: xzins

this is just a weird thread.

modern tariffs gave us predatory labor unions and the worlds crappiest automobiles, just two quick examples. the proper amount of tariffs is no tariffs, which is exactly the president’s plan.

shielding anything from competition is bad for consumers, and even the industry being shielded (in the long run, at least)


14 posted on 07/27/2018 1:08:54 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie
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To: JohnBrowdie; P-Marlowe; Sacajaweau; Sopater

A response to tariffs is to build plants in the country imposing the tariffs.

Also, a tariff taxes everyone equally and is virtually invisible. So, who pays no taxes in America?

Don’t you think they should have some skin in the game?

America had no income tax in those years, but a graduated tax that is so graduated that half the country isn’t paying anything is an abomination for a few reasons. The most important is that the non-taxed in our era take a lot and provide very little.

Also, as a matter of national security, a nation should be self sufficient. All the way from heavy metals to shirts and shorts, a nation should be self-sufficient. To do otherwise is eventually to invite attack and overthrow.


19 posted on 07/27/2018 1:19:38 PM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory.)
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To: JohnBrowdie

Funny how we forget that conservatives were very frustrated with union enterprises being protected by tariffs. Auto tariffs would seriously have me questioning the wisdom of Trump, as they made the big 3 inefficient and lazy.


43 posted on 07/27/2018 2:55:42 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: JohnBrowdie

NO TARIFFS is BAD.

It shifts tax burderns on to other people just like Socialism runs out of other people’s money.

IMPORT TARIFFS is GOOD.

If you are allowed to trade at the lowest price with SLAVES from foreign nations,
your job producers must compete directly with Slaves,
and your job becomes SLAVERY.
Then the quality of products also becomes poor.

Connect the dots please. Or one day you shall be wearing chains.


59 posted on 07/27/2018 5:12:54 PM PDT by TheNext
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To: JohnBrowdie
modern tariffs gave us predatory labor unions and the worlds crappiest automobiles,

You can't project the auto industry onto the ENTIRE US economy,. Nice spin. We are on to you Free Traitors™.

Unions are basically dead and only represent a paltry 9% of the manufacturing workforce.

That war is over. We won.

68 posted on 07/28/2018 5:46:52 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: JohnBrowdie

“the proper amount of tariffs is no tariffs, which is exactly the president’s plan.”

Bears repeating. Washington was right to focus on national self sufficiency, but in 2018 two wrongs don’t make a right.

The US manufacturing base has long suffered from excessive taxation and regulation, and concessions to labor unions. The fact that it can’t compete internationally is the fault of the US government, and the way to remedy the problem is by reducing those taxes, regulations and labor concessions.

Trump, rightly, started with that. Now Trump, again rightly, is using tariffs and the threat of tariffs to force our trading partners to the negotiating table, with the aim of achieving zero tariffs.

“The proper amount of tariffs is no tariffs, which is exactly the president’s plan.”


73 posted on 07/28/2018 6:49:10 AM PDT by enumerated
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