Posted on 07/29/2018 10:40:59 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
The Modoc war is worth studying.
You are correct it is fascinating and has about every element of a good drama including strongly defined leading characters, Capt Jack, BG Canby, BG Gillem, the the half cast fellow whose name escapes me who tried to fashion a compromise, and the vicious struggle in the Lava Beds. Fascinating stuff if taught as straight history and not PC white guilting.
American Indians weren’t even considered CITIZENS, until 1924! And even then, some states would not let them vote til 1957!
http://www.americaslibrary.gov/jb/jazz/jb_jazz_citizens_3.html
The government gave a certain number of acres to individual Indians. I don’t know about other states, but in Oklahoma, these land grants were “managed” by white men -— usually lawyers, who cheated most Indians out of that land, by telling the recipients that they were sorry, but the land had to be sold to pay for the manager to take care of the grants, which of course was a huge lie. Not to mention that lots of that land had oil on it. In the area in which I live, there are several “famous” wealthy families, whose recent ancestors amassed huge amounts of land through this evil, avaricious behavior. Ever see the movie, “The Little Foxes”? Nothing to do with Indians, but the morally bankrupt characters in it, will give you a picture of the type of characters who cheated Indians out of their land.
Yes, there were some atrocious acts committed by Indians, but what would YOU do, if a bunch of people decided to take over YOUR land, whether you were an educated person, or not, just because they wanted it? I imagine you would fight with everything you had, to try to keep it. And Indians did make treaties, and give up land willingly (even though they were given such a pittance, as to be shameful). But nearly 100% of those treaties were broken by the government and their proxies. There was plenty of land to go around; there weren’t that many Indians. But no -— whites wanted it ALL, or very nearly so. And with few exceptions, the land that WAS “given” to tribes as reservations, was the land whites didn’t want anyway (unless oil was discovered, or some other precious metal, in which case they took THAT, too.)
I understand progress. But throughout the ages, all over the world, at what price was “progress” achieved? I don’t doubt that the dungeons of hell are populated by those who were just furthering the cause of “progress”, “expansion”, “religion”,or “colonization”, because they did so at any cost to the people they “civilized”, and by any means.
The battlegrounds are 30 miles from here...amazing story of survival.
If they would get rid of all the crap that socialism has added to the curricula, there’d be plenty of time for all of American history, as well as a good sampling of world history. After all, they have twelve years in which to do it. Next to reading and writing, history is the most important subject to be taught. There’s only so much mathematics the average person needs. A good science foundation is important, but accurate history combines them all, and without it, not only do we not know our past, but will repeat its mistakes.
I call them previous Americans or to steal the logic of the left; Siberian- Americans
It’s California. I’m thinking more of the Mestizos.
I have no problem if it is real history minus the opinion that whites are mass murderers.
How long will it be before the “Identity Politics” gets to the Irish, the Chinese, the Japanese and every other ethnicity and gender for separate inclusion in the history? Will there be any time left in the school day for math or physical science?
By the way...the word savage circa 1800 merely meant that they didn't have a written language.
They should have NEVER gained citizenship.
The white man brought freedom and other natural rig guys,...
Yeah right, at one point in California history an injun walking into town had the right to be shot on sight. (/dripping with sarcasm in case youre wondering).
The natives were never “enslaved”. They weren’t bought and sold; they weren’t forced to come to live on the missions; and they didn’t become anyone’s property.
You havent t a clue of what youre talking about. I know for a fact that everything you deny actually took place. My great grandmother experienced it firsthand.
True. Tribes in California were peaceful peoples. Settlers coming west brought their prejudices with them, thinking all Indians were like warlike tribes east of California. As others mentioned, I received education about Indians and California history while attending school in San Francisco. The high school I attended is located in a neighborhood comprised of Indian tribe names for streets ("Cayuga", "Onondaga", etc.). So native american history was not white-washed here, and education even covered the mass deaths of Indians by the diseases the Spaniards brought.
They should have NEVER gained citizenship.
One of my shirt tail relatives has a ranch in the Sierra foothills near Fresno. Lots of native inhabitation evidence. Pockets in the granite where they crushed acorns etc. Compared to the plains it was nirvana.
You havent t a clue of what youre talking about. I know for a fact that everything you deny actually took place. My great grandmother experienced it firsthand.
I know exactly what I'm talking about. My great-grandmother was a California "Mission Indian" (Kumeysay, Barona band). I've have been extensively studying this history all my life. I stand by everything I said. There was no "slavery" by the Spaniards in California. Period.
Sorry, Red Skunk feather...
Your story is NOT my story, and can never be.
Neither is the mexican story: human sacrifice, eat a living beating heart after ripping it out of a live prisoner...
Eat a democratic beating heart?...
Megayuck!!
Moving right along...
Do you have any tribe members with the name petitfour??
Nope. My tribe members do not sound or look very sweet or tasty. We are very boring like that. We only introduce diseases to natives and then conquer them when they are at their weakest.
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