Perfect!
Let’s go with it, because, um, Americans, deserve, like, free stuff & stuff!
This assumes that all current clinics and hospitals would remain ‘operational’. I don’t see that happening if you go to Medicare-for-all.
If you drew a 25-mile circle around your house on day one, with four public hospitals and ten public clinics...the dynamics would change within three years. Most of the clinics would downsize and only handle certain issues. At least one of the hospitals would shutdown entirely because of the limit on profits. Cancer-treatment? You might find one single option within fifty miles of your home.
The cost would rapidly decrease as the units downsize or limit their ‘products’. You’d finally get affordable care...but find that it’s marginal care at best.
Is this based on it being free?
They could charge a market rate so it self-funds like the post office. It should work as a crappy HMO alternative to Obamacare.
We take in about $3.4T in revenue each year. This medicare for all deal would cost $3.2T a year.
That’s all...
Bernie, put a sock in it. No make it five...
These people are drop dead nutz. They have blinders on and don’t “see” what’s happening in Canada and the UK.
Regarding estimates ? They don’t have a clue.
Vermont dropped single payer after a few years study because the starting estimate was $4.3 billion a year and didn’t know how to pay for it. Their state budget is 4.9 billion a year.
California estimated 400 billion a year to start. ( Remember, California sux at estimating - high speed rail already over budget and now at 77 billion and start date pushed to 2033)
California’s state budget is 201 billion.
So this medicare for all. Is that like universal health care by another name?
Politfact points out that those who "paid into" medicare, really paid between 13% to 14% of what they get out of it. The rest is paid for by younger workers who will never benefit from it. The same holds for Social Security. From the SSA, Ratio of Covered Workers to Beneficiaries, In 1940, the ratio was 159.4 working to 1 person receiving benefits. In 2013, it was 2.8 to 1. Human nature being what it is, both of them will have to go broke first, before anyone comes up with a solution.
they are going to pay for it all by implementing a carbon tax on everything
Medicare as it is blows up the whole budget in a few years.
Yeah. That’ll work...
I also don’t buy the argument of lower administrative costs.
The employees of the government agency will most likely be unionized and impossible to fire-even for sleeping on the job. Most if not all health care workers including doctors will unionize and a federally run program with slow down in terms of purchasing the newest and fastest computers etc.
Isn’t Medicare only available to citizens 65 and older?
Aren’t the asshat journalists and/or liberals (I know that’s redundant) really talking about Medicaid?
With millions of foreign nationals sneaking into America each year looking for free stuff, this would just about do it for prosperity in America.
Would someone, especially the likes of Burnout Sanders and Alexandria Occasional-Cortex, please tell me one thing that the government (ANY government) has ever been able to do efficiently, and tell me when they have ever been able to effectively manage fraud, waste, and abuse?
The 2018 federal budget is $4.2 trillion.
Like my tagline says.....
There is not enough money in the entire world economy to fund such a pipe dream.
Medicare was designed for those over 65 because
1. They are old, so they get more diseases.
2. They are old and they usually are ending their working years and can’t afford the usual insurance and medical costs.
3. They are old and would bankrupt their younger family members if nothing was done to help out.
Medicare is designed for the old. Your insurance and your supplementary insurance are designed to automatically renew, because older people tend to forget to do things like that. The system runs smoothly without patient input once you show your cards to the provider, again to make it easier for the elderly. The supplementary kicks in without any paperwork on the patient’s part, again to make it easy for those losing their former sharpness. The payments go straight to the provider. No referrals to specialists are needed, again to simplify paperwork and busywork.
If Americans want to baby the entire population the way they take care of their elderly, I suppose they have that choice, but don’t we baby everybody too much already?
Plus of course the system can’t handle it. The fraud in Medicare is astounding. It depends on patient reporting, and most patients don’t want to do that because they want to keep their doctor. The fraud for such a gigantic system would be overwhelming, especially with the corrupt state our country is in, with everyone trying to rip off the system.
As Amir Tsarfati says in today’s video, if we let the Democrats win in November and impeach Trump, our country is lost forever and will never return.
Current Federal budget is 3.9 trillion. This ludic robs idea doubles that amount. So instead of absorbing 20% of the country’s GDP, the Federal government would absorb 40%.