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Real ID will divide us all into documented and undocumented
Los Angeles Times ^ | Jul 30, 2018 | David L. Ulin

Posted on 07/30/2018 6:59:58 PM PDT by artichokegrower

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To: ridesthemiles

I changed it back both times to my maiden name, but I am NOT sure where all those records are.<<

Call all your ex-husbands lawyers....I’m sure they have all the info and the bills to prove it...


21 posted on 07/30/2018 7:34:15 PM PDT by M-cubed
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

Airlines won’t allow someone to fly without Real ID or passport. I presume that waivers will remain in effect until the Oct 18 deadline.


22 posted on 07/30/2018 7:34:28 PM PDT by jjotto (Next week, BOOM!, for sure!)
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To: neverevergiveup

“Without Real ID, the U.S. has not experienced another 9/11-scale attack, and terrorism remains (thankfully, fortunately) an abstraction to most of us.”

4 July 2002

Hesham Muhammad Hadayet, an Egyptian national with a green card giving him permanent status in the United States, killed two people and wounded four at an El Al ticket counter at Los Angeles International Airport. Hadayet also died. The FBI later concluded that it was an act of terrorism but that Hadayet was acting alone.
Victims of New York attack include five Argentinian friends on school reunion

1 June 2009

In 2009, Abdulhakim Mujahid Muhammad, an American-born convert to Islam, opened fire on an army recruiting office in Little Rock, Arkansas. Muhammad killed one soldier and wounded another. Muhammad, who previously lived in Yemen, claimed to be a member of al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula. His lawyers produced an expert who testified that he was delusional and Muhammad eventually pled guilty to avoid the death penalty.
5 November 2009

Army major Nidal Hasan opened fire in the Soldier Readiness Processing Center at Fort Hood, Texas. The American-born Hasan killed 13 fellow soldiers and wounded 32. Hasan was also paralyzed in the attack. At his trial, he declared himself to be at war with America and investigators found that although he acted alone, he had accessed jihadist websites. Hasan was sentenced to death and is currently incarcerated in Fort Leavenworth, Kansas.
15 April 2013

The Boston Marathon bombing attack was carried out by two brothers, Dzhokhar and Tamerlan Tsarnaev. The bomb placed at the finish line of the Boston Marathon killed three people and injured 264. The two later killed Sean Collins, an MIT police officer. In addition, in a firefight between the brothers and the police, 16 officers were injured and another later died. Tamerlan, the older brother, died after he was shot by police and his brother ran over him in a car in an attempt to escape. Dzhokhar was apprehended and sentenced to death in federal court. The two Kyrgyz-American immigrants had been self-radicalized but learned to make their bomb from the al-Qaida online magazine Inspire.
16 July 2015

Muhammad Youssef Abdulazeez attacked both a marine recruiting office and US Navy reserve center. Abdulazeez first opened fire on the recruiting office from a car, wounding a recruiter inside. He then drove to a Navy reserve center where he killed four marines and one seaman before police officers killed him. Abdulazeez was an American citizen born in Kuwait. Former FBI director James Comey later said Abdulazeez was “motivated by foreign terrorist organization propaganda.”
15 December 2015

A married couple, Syed Rizwan Farook and Tasheen Malik, opened fire on a Christmas party at the San Bernandino County Department of Public Health, where Farook worked. Fourteen people died and 24 were injured. Farook was born in the United States and Malik was a Pakistani immigrant who married Farook in Saudi Arabia after they met on the internet. The two were later killed in a shootout with police. The FBI later described the two as “homegrown violent extremists” and found that they had radicalized before they met online.
12 June 2016

American-born Omar Mateen killed 49 people and wounded 58 at the Pulse nightclub in Orlando, Florida. In calls made during his rampage at the gay nightclub, Mateen pledged allegiance to Isis. After his initial assault, the attack into a hostage situation that lasted for nearly three hours. Eventually police stormed the nightclub and killed Mateen in a shootout. Barack Obama later said that Mateen was “inspired by various extremist information that was disseminated over the internet”.
31 October 2017

A man drove a rented pickup truck into cyclists and runners on the Hudson River bike path on Manhattan’s lower west side, killing eight people and injuring 11. Sayfullo Saipov, a 29-year-old immigrant from Uzbekistan, has been charged with murder. On 28 November 2017, he pleaded not guilty. The next hearing in Saipov’s case is set for 23 January.


23 posted on 07/30/2018 7:36:25 PM PDT by artichokegrower
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To: artichokegrower

I’ve heard from people who say that trying to get the I.d. in person is no walk in the park either.


24 posted on 07/30/2018 7:38:25 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no gstandards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: MuttTheHoople

25 posted on 07/30/2018 7:39:03 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Texas Eagle

People in the 28 states (including Texas) that are already Real ID have somehow managed.


26 posted on 07/30/2018 7:43:41 PM PDT by jjotto (Next week, BOOM!, for sure!)
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To: artichokegrower

Last time I went to the DMV in California, everyone there was there for a Real ID. Didn’t hear English until I was back in the car with KFI playing.


27 posted on 07/30/2018 7:46:08 PM PDT by 1_Inch_Group (Country Before Party)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...
Another brainless partisan media shill weighs in, courtesy of the LA Slimes. Thanks artichokegrower.

28 posted on 07/30/2018 7:54:29 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: artichokegrower

Very sad that states are issuing ID to illegal aliens instead of turning them over for deportation. At least Real ID is a step toward differentiating who is and is not a US citizen.


29 posted on 07/30/2018 7:57:11 PM PDT by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!y)
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To: ridesthemiles

It’s all for nought. DPS workers have knowingly sold legit licenses to people in crooked cash deals for decades. Cases come to light now and then. Require passports, not driver’s licenses. Too many crooked employees and even crooked states.


30 posted on 07/30/2018 7:58:31 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Spygate's clock began in 2015 - what did President Obama know and when did he know it)
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To: Fungi

how many people legally in the us don’t have an id
id is needed for most everything but voting in many states.
ridiculous in this day and age to say id is against your rights. try functioning without one unless you are homeless and don’t work or collect benefits..who does that leave?


31 posted on 07/30/2018 8:02:43 PM PDT by rolling_stone (Hang em slowly don't boil the rope make it a little short...)
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To: artichokegrower

F-them and this ID crap!!!!

I WAS BORN IN AMERICA FROM 2 AMERICAN BORN CITIZENS !!!


32 posted on 07/30/2018 8:05:34 PM PDT by mabarker1 (congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!!)
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To: llevrok

“So how do they sort out the illegals from US citizens during state and federal elections if they did not ask some proof of nationality when registering to vote?”

The point is, they don’t sort it out.


33 posted on 07/30/2018 8:06:16 PM PDT by rightwingcrazy
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To: artichokegrower

My wife and I are planning to tell Caliph-phony-a to take their “REAL ID” and shove it. Her license is up for renewal soon and mine doesn’t renew until 2020, by which time the new regs will most likely be in effect.

We will be renewing our passport instead and use that to travel.


34 posted on 07/30/2018 8:07:39 PM PDT by ssaftler (It's not the "deep state". It's the "odoriferous oligarchy")
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To: ridesthemiles

From what I understand...we’ll have to get a “Star ID”....but I think that was delayed to 2020? We can’t fly domestically or enter a Fed building w/o a passport or said ID.


35 posted on 07/30/2018 8:11:08 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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To: House Atreides
"As to the title.... YAY!"

As to the title.... Way past due...Sanity must be restored...

36 posted on 07/30/2018 8:15:55 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: artichokegrower

A wall would have eliminated such a problem. Imagine that - everyone in the country would be a citizen, or at least there legally. What a concept.


37 posted on 07/30/2018 8:18:18 PM PDT by JudyinCanada
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To: artichokegrower

Outstanding summary...


38 posted on 07/30/2018 8:21:32 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: House Atreides

“As to the title.... YAY!”

I thought that was the whole idea.


39 posted on 07/30/2018 8:28:31 PM PDT by Agatsu77
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To: Gay State Conservative

I had an ID I got because I was a citizen and I had several security clearances, and still I saw people with no ID get special treatment.


40 posted on 07/30/2018 8:30:43 PM PDT by Agatsu77
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