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Where the jobs are: Trucking companies are hiking wages as they struggle to attract younger drivers
CNBC ^ | 8/3/2018 | Kate Rogers

Posted on 08/03/2018 7:32:32 AM PDT by mac_truck

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To: cuban leaf
When you look at what truckers and trucking firms have to put up with, regulation-wise, I’d only be a truck driver if the only other work I could find involved flipping burgers.

At least that burger flipper is home every night.

41 posted on 08/03/2018 9:34:22 AM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: mac_truck

Truckers are one job group that gets drug tested both regularly & randomly.

The p;st 2 generations have endorsed drug use.

They cannot pass the tests to get the ob or to hold the job.

I know we need more drivers, but I have absolutely NO SYMPATHY for people who want a job & still use drugs.


42 posted on 08/03/2018 9:35:49 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: zerosix

Was in Fernley, Nevada a week ago today. Train came thru. 4 diesel engines and I counted 120 cars. Most of those cars had semi-trailers on them, stacked double deck.

There is still alot of freight moved my rail, but when it gets to a major freight yard, it still needs to be moved locally. As expansive as the rail system is in the country, it doesn’t go everywhere.


43 posted on 08/03/2018 9:46:34 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: shelterguy; Wuli; Drango

“Sometimes I think Drago is a troll on FreeRep for the technology giants.”

If you don’t think self-driving cars and trucks are coming, you’re not keeping up. Who knows if the 10+ years estimate is accurate? But it is coming.

There was essentially no such thing as a smart phone before 2007. There were attempts, such as Palm Treo along with feature phones with Internet access, but there was no real general-purpose computing on your phone. Today, it’s hard to find a cell phone that is not a smart phone.

To me, 10 years, give or take, seems pretty realistic. On the one hand, there are many vehicles on the road which would be difficult to retrofit with self-driving technology even when the computer / software side is ready to go. So this will be the biggest delay. On the other hand, when self-driving vehicles become safer than humans—which will happen quickly—insurance will make human drivers too expensive... unless, of course, government intervention delays this natural outcome of free markets.

Basically, the technology is already here. Like it or not, it is the future. That being said, the salaries of over-the-road drivers do not add that much to the cost of goods. So their driving jobs will probably be the last to go. Taxis and ride-sharing will be impacted sooner. It will probably be cheaper for the average person to use driverless ride-sharing than to own.

Even today the availability of ride-sharing makes it more feasible to reduce the number of vehicles owned per household. For families with two or more cars, it may already be cheaper in terms of car insurance, gas, and maintenance, to use ride-sharing as a supplement to a main family vehicle. Since the cost of the driver is the largest part of the cost of ride-sharing, when the driver is no longer necessary, ride-sharing will become competitive with car ownership.


44 posted on 08/03/2018 9:53:42 AM PDT by unlearner (A war is coming.)
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To: unlearner

A computer will never replace a truck driver. If you have ever driven a truck you would know why.


45 posted on 08/03/2018 9:56:15 AM PDT by shelterguy
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To: Drango

Yep. Once 5g hits...and is nationwide... self-driving cars and trucks are easy. Right now it is the bandwidth problem and a dead-zones problem. Within 10 years...this won’t be a problem. One only has to think back 10-15 years as to where we WERE then...and remember Moore’s Law...and the conclusion is obvious...or at least it should be.


46 posted on 08/03/2018 10:01:41 AM PDT by NELSON111 (Congress: The Ralph Wolf and Sam Sheepdog show. Theater for sheep. My politics determines my "hero")
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To: glaseatr
I'm not saying it's a bad thing, but it is what will happen.

People like to complain about Wal-Mart pressuring suppliers, but yet those same people shop at Wal-Mart.

If you want higher wages, you will have higher prices.
47 posted on 08/03/2018 10:11:41 AM PDT by TexasGunLover
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To: NELSON111
self-driving cars and trucks are easy

Self driving cars are in no way impacted by available wireless bandwidth.
48 posted on 08/03/2018 10:12:40 AM PDT by TexasGunLover
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To: Drango

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49 posted on 08/03/2018 10:16:47 AM PDT by Pelham (California, Mexico's socialist colony)
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To: TexasGunLover

Not that much. 40,000 pounds of beef with a 10 cent per pound increase in freight would generate an additional $4000 in revenue.


50 posted on 08/03/2018 10:20:49 AM PDT by eastforker (All in, I'm all Trump,what you got!)
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To: unlearner

Apples and oranges.


51 posted on 08/03/2018 10:23:42 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: shelterguy

“A computer will never replace a truck driver. If you have ever driven a truck you would know why.”

Your comment reminds me of a guy I did contract computer work for in the late 90s. He was a smart guy. He owned a network consulting company. But when I told him he HAD to get his business online, he said he thought the Internet thing was a fad. During the brief period I worked for him, he changed his mind because Novell (back when Novell existed and was the first name in computer networking) told all of their affiliates that ordering was being moved to the web exclusively. That’s when he saw the writing on the wall.

As someone who did spend over 5 years as a delivery driver requiring a CDL with several endorsements, and as someone who drove passenger buses for a couple of years, I would say you’re overestimating the complexity of the job. Sure, there are a lot of human tasks that computers and robotics are more capable of performing, but we are approaching an era in which generalized AI and robotics will allow computers to do MOST of what humans can do.

I’ve also got a longer work history in IT. I’ve done computer programming, among other things.

But you really don’t have to be an expert to see where things are heading. We used to use key maps to plan our delivery and pickup routes. Today, GPS on our smart phones provides most of the information we need.


52 posted on 08/03/2018 10:29:34 AM PDT by unlearner (A war is coming.)
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To: cuban leaf

Peterbilt and Kenworth are both built by Paccar. Kenworth is the flagship.


53 posted on 08/03/2018 10:32:17 AM PDT by shotgun ( .)
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To: unlearner

Computers won’t replace truck drivers.


54 posted on 08/03/2018 10:47:30 AM PDT by shelterguy
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To: FreedomNotSafety
Pilots will be replaced by automatons long before drivers and starting pay for drivers is much higher then for pilots.

Easier to enter the trucking profession these days also.

55 posted on 08/03/2018 10:53:11 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: shotgun

Yep. I kinda saw them as Chevy and Cadillac.

I used to ride my bike by one of the plants on my commute. But that was decades ago.


56 posted on 08/03/2018 11:02:31 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: Wuli

Non Sequitur.

I compared computer technology with computer technology.


57 posted on 08/03/2018 11:20:28 AM PDT by unlearner (A war is coming.)
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To: mac_truck

“Next time you see your nephew, mention that you heard wages and benefits are up in the industry...good truckers are hard to find.”

He knows that, from his perspective it’s not worth it.


58 posted on 08/03/2018 11:56:32 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: unlearner

Huh???


59 posted on 08/03/2018 11:58:01 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: cuban leaf

he is right peterbilt is the best ever made i spent 30 years driving them.


60 posted on 08/03/2018 12:09:13 PM PDT by old gringo (a wise monkey never monkeys with another monkeys monkey.)
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