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To: yesthatjallen
"The fascists of the future will call themselves anti-fascists."

Do the words provide the message on their own or does the author of the words provide the message?

The author brings the words to our attention but after that introduction the words have to stand on their own.

Regardless of the author do the words stand on their own?

13 posted on 08/07/2018 9:27:30 AM PDT by MosesKnows (Love Many, Trust Few, and Always Paddle Your Own Canoe)
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To: MosesKnows
If you can't confirm the source, you can simply say, 'it's often been said', and quote the quote.

Sometimes it's difficult to pin down the original source unless it's in print or video:

"Lies, damned lies, and statistics" is a phrase describing the persuasive power of numbers, particularly the use of statistics to bolster weak arguments. It is also sometimes colloquially used to doubt statistics used to prove an opponent's point.

The term was popularized in United States by Mark Twain (among others), who attributed it to the British Prime Minister Benjamin Disraeli: "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." However, the phrase is not found in any of Disraeli's works and the earliest known appearances were years after his death. Several other people have been listed as originators of the quote, and it is often erroneously attributed to Twain himself.

14 posted on 08/07/2018 9:55:35 AM PDT by yesthatjallen
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