Apple threatened by China over US Tariffs Ping!
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Posted on 08/07/2018 10:11:57 AM PDT by Red Badger
Apple has benefited from cheap labor and strong supply chain in China which has helped it boost profit and get to a $1 trillion valuation, the state-backed People's Daily said. The U.S. firm should share that money with Chinese citizens, the article urged. Apple could be the target of "anger and nationalist sentiment" amid the ongoing trade war.
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Apple has benefited from cheap labor and a strong supply chain in China and needs to share more of its profit with the Chinese people or face "anger and nationalist sentiment" amid the ongoing trade war, an article in the state-backed People's Daily warned Tuesday. The article originally appeared in another state-backed publication, Global Times, last week.
The opinion piece highlights how Apple made $9.6 billion in revenues in China in the June quarter, which helped the U.S. giant to recently hit a $1 trillion valuation.
But the continuing trade war between the U.S. and China could leave Apple and other U.S. firms vulnerable as "bargaining chips" for Beijing, according to the article.
"The eye-catching success achieved in the Chinese market may provoke nationalist sentiment if U.S. President Donald Trump's recently adopted protectionist measures hit Chinese companies hard," the People's Daily said.
"China is by far the most important overseas market for the U.S.-based Apple, leaving it exposed if Chinese people make it a target of anger and nationalist sentiment. China doesn't want to close its doors to Apple despite the trade conflict, but if the U.S. company wants to earn good money in China, its needs to share its development dividends with the Chinese people."
It's unclear how the publication thinks Apple should share its profits with Chinese citizens.
Apple declined to comment.
Last week, China said it was ready to retaliate with tariffs on around $60 billion of U.S. goods, just days after the U.S. administration revealed that Trump had spoken with U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer and asked him to consider increasing the proposed levies on $200 billion of Chinese goods up to 25 percent, from 10 percent.
So far, Apple has been broadly insulated from the trade war. Trump reportedly told Apple CEO Tim Cook in June that iPhones assembled in China would be spared from levies.
But People's Daily took issue with the economics of the iPhone. The article claimed that Chinese companies in Apple's supply chain only get 1.8 percent of total profits created by the flagship device. People's Daily did not cite where it got this figure from.
Ultimately, Chinese state media argued that U.S. companies could begin to enter the firing line in the conflict between the world's two largest economies.
"The trade conflict initiated by the Trump administration reminds China to re-examine China-U.S. trade," People's Daily wrote. "It seems U.S. companies doing business in China are the biggest winners from China-U.S. trade. The Chinese market is vital for many top U.S. brands, giving Beijing more leeway to play hardball in the trade conflict."
I know google is evil but so are the Gates. Any other options out there?
I hate that we let these tech companies get so powerful. They are all sell outs and traitors!
all in from our side will cost the chicoms far more than it will us
time to shift your business to india - get in ahead of the curve
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If Apple would try and get some factories in South America or Africa, they could tell China TO GO POUND SAND...................
Uh, chuckee? Those employees in China are not employed by Apple, they work for FoxConn, an entirely independent company who assembles Consumer and Industrial Electronics for over 500 different companies of which Apple is only one customer. Here is a list of 71 of the larger companies that FoxConn contracts with to do their assembly (US companies in BOLD):
- Acer Inc. (Taiwan)
- Alcatel (France)
- Amazon (United States)
- Amoi (China)
- Apple Inc. (United States)
- Archos (France)
- ASRock (Taiwan)
- Asus (Taiwan)
- BBK (China)
- Barnes & Noble (United States)
- BenQ (South Korea)
- Blackberry (Canada)
- Cisco (United States)
- Coolpad (China)
- Dell Inc.(United States)
- EVGA Corporation (United States)
- Fujitsu (Japan)
- GE Thomson
- Google (United States)
- Griffin Technologies (United States)
- Gründig Mobile (Germany)
- Haier (China)
- Hewlett-Packard (United States)
- HiSense (China)
- Honor (China)
- HTC (Taiwan)
- Huawei (China)
- Intel (United States)
- IBM (United States)
- Kyocera Communications (Japan)
- Komko (China)
- LeEcco (China)
- Lenovo (China)
- Lenovo/Motorola Mobility (China)
- LG Lucky GoldStar (South Korea)
- Meizu (China)
- Microsoft (United States)
- Microsoft MSI (Taiwan)
- Motorola Communications (United States)
- NCR (United States)
- NEC Casio Communication (Japan)
- Netgear (United States)
- Nintendo (Japan)
- Nokia Oyj (Finland)
- Olivetti (Italy)
- OnePlus (China)
- Oppo (China)
- PackardBell (Netherlands)
- Panasonic (Japan)
- Philips (Netherlands)
- Pioneer Electronics (Japan)
- Samsung (South Korea)
- Sanyo (Japan)
- Sharp (Japan)
- Siemens (Germany)
- Smartisan (China)
- Sony (Japan)
- TCL Communication Technology (China)
- Technology Happy Life (China)
- Telefunken (Germany)
- Thomson (France)
- Toshiba (Japan)
- Vivo (China)
- VSun (China)
- Vizio (United States)
- Vodophone (UK)
- Wasam (China)
- Xiaomi (China)
- Zoostorm (New Zealand)
- ZTE (China)
- ZUK (China)
Right, sure. An Android phone made in China with an OS designed by Google which is even MORE in bed with the deep state and been sharing your data with the CIA and NSA. . . and is completely non-secure. . . and two of the Android manufacturers have been caught by our government with hardware that connects BACK TO CHINA.
About Android... primarily made with Red Chinese labor, and some with North Korean labor. Apple has no workforce in Red China other than sales staff. Samsung has built and owns many factories in Red China, and directly employs many Red Chinese. Also, Red China often uses North Korean workers on their assembly lines. (Goods using NK workers no longer allowed in USA due to an executive order by President Trump, supposedly Samsung and other Android makers pulled NK workers off the lines).
Still feeling good about your Android phones made by makers with a heavy presence in Red China? Apple has no presence there.
Yeah, that'll work.
Steve Jobs offered to pay for nobama’s 2012 campaign ads. Thats when I knew Id never buy a road apple. Yeah I still have a clear conscience with my Samsung.
Ubuntu Touch:Made in China, Assembled by FoxConn. Operating System is a subset of Linux.
On the outlook, Ubuntu Touch mimics any other operating system. While Ubuntu Touch trails Android in certain aspects, the latest crop of fixes could well be the platform for a new OS showdown. The new updates include:
- Improved updates panel: That allows you to keep track of new updates and witness the changes they bring in real time.
- Improved Emoji keyboard: The last Emoji keyboard was daunting to navigate.
- The new version is pretty easy to sort through and find the right Emoji that suits the moment.
- Calendar synchronization: The new OS adds support for iCal and CalDAV. It also allows you to synchronize many calendars through your Google accounts and your own cloud.
- New notifications panel: Brings on board refined notification settings. The new notification setting lets you choose which specific app notifies you with sound, vibration, or notification bubble
Only three phones are currently available utilizing Ubuntu Touch, one in Europe, two in China.
Amazon Fire OS
Made in China, Assembled by FoxConn. Subset of Android.
Amazon Fire OS is based on Android operating system. It’s produced by Amazon and specially designed for Amazon’s Fire Phone and Kindle Fire range of Smartphones and tablets. This operating system mainly focuses on content consumption. It comes with a fortified user interface and tailored to make content available from Amazon’s storefronts and services. Some of the newest updates to the OS include:
- Compatibility with current Android apps than ever before: Which means a lot of your apps would work on fires devices without added engineering effort.
- Free compatibility testing within 90 seconds: This means you only need to drag and drop your Android APK into the App Testing Service to find out your compatibility results.
- Amazon Rapids: Is considered a game changer for Amazon. Amazon Rapids is a reading app specifically geared towards children. Stories are told to children in the style of chat sessions.
- Alex video support: An app that’s able to search games, audio books, TV shows and movies on Amazon video.
On August 27, 2015, the "Phandroid" website reported that Amazon had discontinued the Fire Phone. Amazon still supports the Amazon Fire OS Tablets.
Firefox OS
No manufactured currently makes a phone using Firefox OS, although in 2014 and 2015 six such phones were made. It can be loaded on low end phones manually by a user. Based on Linux and Gecko. It is intended to boot from the web. Firefox OS is designed by Mozilla for Smartphone, tablets and Smart TVs. It was first released for sale in 2013. Firefox OS focuses on HTML5 technology to go in line with devices capabilities such as SMS and Bluetooth support. It comes with added features such as:
- Highly optimized for low-end hardware, meaning manufacturers can use it for free to produce devices that piece together low cost and high degree of functionality.
- It’s fully open source, which means it is community driven.
- Requires low battery capacity since the phone is intended to boot from the web and application to run on the web.
In December 2015 Mozilla announced it would stop development of new Firefox OS smartphones, and in September 2016 announced the end of development.
Tizen
Samsung's in house version of Android which actually has some commercially available phones.
Samsung introduced this new operating system after announcing that it would discontinue development of Bada operating system on 25th February 2013. Tizen has since gained a significant bite of share in the smartphone market. It’s now ranked the 4th largest Smartphone OS in the world. The biggest selling point of Tizen is that:However, its greatest challenge will be attracting customers from Android and iOS operating systems.
- It provides 100% revenue to app developers. This is why most developers prefer it
- Tizen is an open source OS, which means any company or individual, can join and initiate any modification.
Tizen is the one OS on this list that is still viable as an alternative, commercial OS.
Sailfish OS
Sailfish OS is developed by the Finish mobile company Jolla Ltd. and the Sailfish OS community. Some of its key features that worry the top operating system developers (nobody's worried—Swordmaker) include:
- Linux friendly: It utilizes Linux platform, which means it’s stable, perfect for Smartphones and can be modified with relative ease.
- Hardware ready: Adding hardware is relatively easy. It’s also easy to replace a part.
- Gesture controls and multitasking: Upgraded from button clicks to swipes. Ease of unlocking the handset. You only need to double tap. All you need after unlocking is swiping to maneuver through applications.
Currently still being supported and licensed on ten devices commercially, four of which are phones.
Windows 10 Mobile
This is Microsoft’s operating system utilized in Smartphones and other mobile devices. This Operating system is based on Windows CE 5.2 kernel. In 2010, Microsoft inaugurated a new Smartphone platform known as Windows Phone 7. The release of Windows Phone 8.1 followed in 2014. The latest update is the Windows 10 mobile operating system. The greatest selling point of the Windows 10 Mobile operating system is the Cortana and search application. Cortana is now available in Spanish, Portuguese and French. Window 10 aspires to provide greater consistency with its counterparts for computers including:
- Higher level synchronization of content
- An innovative global application platform that lets a single app to operate on multiple Windows 10 devices like mobile devices, PCs, and Xbox
- Freedom to upgrade your Windows 8.1 Smartphone to the latest Windows 10 mobile subject to the manufacturer’s approval and support
On October 8, 2017, Microsoft executive Joe Belfiore revealed that the company would no longer actively develop new features or hardware for Windows phones, citing its low market share, and the resultant lack of third-party software for the platform. Microsoft had largely abandoned its mobile business, having laid off the majority of Microsoft Mobile employees in 2016,[98] and having focused software efforts on providing apps and services compatible with Android and iOS instead.
These are NOT "terrific" operating systems, except in the original derivation of the word from "terrifying," in that they require more work than they are worth.
Some iPhones are already made in Brazil. . . but not enough to tell China to go pound sand. The threat here is that Chinese consumers may stop buying iPhones. . . nothing more at this point. This is mere posturing as far as I can see.
Pretty much all computer makers, phone makers rely on Chinese factories. Only those made in Korea or Japan would be nominally safe as long as they did not rely on Chinese made components.
It can only be clear if you have convinced yourself that Samsung is not made in China, or maybe you are just blinded by hate of all things Apple?
Meh! I just hate everything Steve Jobs stood for.
Nice memory you got there, WhatNot.
Good Try, but no banana. That didn't happen.
Steve Jobs was dead long before the 2012 presidential contest even got underway—he died October 5, 2011, thirteen months before the 2012 election, and he'd been gravely ill for ten months before that when he took medical leave in January of 2011 and not making any appearances or meetings. He certainly was not meeting with politicians. The last time Jobs met with anyone from Washington was February 2011 at John Doerr's Tech Dinner with Obama, where the topic was what Silicon Valley could do to bring tech jobs back to the US and Steve recommended the same steps that Trump is now doing: cut taxes and regulations, which did not go over well with Obama, plus improve tech education here, which did.
Jobs, an admitted Lib, kept Apple out of politics, prohibiting Apple from making any corporate political donations or even having a lobbying presence in Washington, D.C. His personal political involvement from 2001 to 2011 totalled ~$25,000 in political contributions, mostly to local candidates, with one $5,000 donation to the DNC in the mid-2000s. You can look it up.
Besides being dead, Jobs could not have legally made such an offer of that large of a contribution which would have exceeded the lawful individual campaign contribution limits of $5,000. Only unions can get away with that.
The Apple Employee's PAC, which is an organization completely independent of Apple, did make contributions which generally made donations distributed about 80% Democrat and 20% Republican, but that is about what all Silicon Valley tech companies' political mix is, if not worse. So who are you talking about? The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation DID pay for a lot of Obama and Democrat candidate ads.
Microsoft withdrew their normal contribution of hardware and software from the Republican National Convention in 2016 but extended it free of charge to the Democrats. . . so I assume you've gotten rid of all Microsoft products in favor of Linux?
I am willing to bet you haven't a clue what Steve Jobs stood for, given your last claim of him offering a posthumous donation for Obama ads. You seem to believe ever anti-Apple anti-Steve Jobs myth that comes along.
He may not have been a perfect or even likable human being, but he was not the person a lot of people have painted him to be.
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