[Zhang Fei]

[No. That isn’t what I said. But then the defining earmarks of neoconartists are stupidity and duplicity, and it is impossible to tell where one leaves off and the other begins.]

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If NATO isn’t going to invade Russia, then where is the offense? I’m referring to conventional definitions of what an offense is, not Russia’s definition of it, where not submitting to Russian rule is a cause for Russian conquest and annexation.

[rbmillerjr]

” Agreed. Putin should have accepted Ukrainian and Georgian independence rather than trying to annex them using the age old tactic of claiming persecuted ethnic minorities. Ukraine and Georgia wouldn’t be rushing to join NATO if he simply respected their independence. “

That’s the rub. The Russians are out neo-conning the neo-cons. They offer no carrot and nobody really likes them, so they have to satisfy their appetite with expansion.

I predict if the US and NATO hesitate, Russia will take all of Georgia. With no NATO, we will do nothing. With Nato, the Russians will do nothing, despite their dire threats.