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Why Does Trump Get More Credit Than Obama for the Same Economy?
New York Magazine ^ | 08/08/2018 | By Jonathan Chait

Posted on 08/08/2018 8:23:50 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Over the last year and a half, there have been three things one could say about Donald Trump’s standing with the public, depending on which aspect you wished to emphasize:

(1) Trump is not very popular.

(2) Given his scandals and wildly unpresidential conduct in office, Trump is surprisingly popular.



All three of these points are neatly brought together in a chart compiled by political scientist Patrick Egan, comparing presidential approval rating to consumer sentiment. The historically large divergence between the two illustrates just how badly Trump is underperforming given the buoyant assessment of the economy:



But beneath all these points, there is another question that has not yet been answered: Why is the public so positive about the economy in the first place?

The preferred Republican answer is that Trump has turned the economy around with his brilliant combination of deal-making, tax-cutting, and freeing Job Creators of laborious Obama-era regulation. There is no evidence whatsoever for this widespread claim. Ramesh Ponnuru and Michael Strain, two conservative writers, examine a wide array of economic data, and find the economy is performing no better now than it did in Obama’s second term. Overall economic growth is the same, and job growth is slightly slower. The Trump tax cut is supposed to spur more investment, which would increase incomes over the long run, but there is no sign of any increased investment so far. (3) Given the public’s view of the economy, which is highly positive, Trump is extremely unpopular.

(Excerpt) Read more at nymag.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: chait; economy; obama; trump; trumpeconomy
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1 posted on 08/08/2018 8:23:50 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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2 posted on 08/08/2018 8:24:41 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Obama ? Obama ? where did I hear that name before ?


3 posted on 08/08/2018 8:24:53 AM PDT by butlerweave
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NOT the same economy, asshole.


4 posted on 08/08/2018 8:25:25 AM PDT by GoldenPup
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Less than 3 is greater than 4.1.

“The New Maff”, by the DNC.


5 posted on 08/08/2018 8:26:50 AM PDT by moovova
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BS! See it speak it wash the little minds in it!

No sale reptard!

6 posted on 08/08/2018 8:27:52 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing")
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Probably because the Leftist Obama fan club is lying?

https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-employment-costs-rose-in-the-second-quarter-1533040473

Better wage growth, faster GDP growth, higher labor participation and lower unemployment, most open jobs.

The liars pushing this myth are manufacturing a fraudulent premise. This is NO WHERE near the “same” economy under Trump.


7 posted on 08/08/2018 8:28:07 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (2016: For the first time since 1984, I voted for a Rep President all other votes were anti Dem)
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Maybe because Obama was working for Iran instead of us.


8 posted on 08/08/2018 8:30:12 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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Overall economic growth is the same, and job growth is slightly slower.

False. Intellectually dishonest to compare the best of Obama 8 years to Trumps 2 years

9 posted on 08/08/2018 8:30:39 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (2016: For the first time since 1984, I voted for a Rep President all other votes were anti Dem)
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Yes, “New Maff” indeed.


10 posted on 08/08/2018 8:30:56 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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OPEC (Saudi Arabia mostly) dramatically lowered oil prices for Obama BEFORE the 2014 midterm elections Specifically to bump the economy to enable the claim that “Obama did it!” ... Now, under Trump, to attack Trump and regain money and in a rising economy , they want more money


11 posted on 08/08/2018 8:31:14 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (The democrats' national goal: One world social-communism under one world religion: Atheistic Islam.)
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Because Trump deserves it and bammy didn’t.


12 posted on 08/08/2018 8:31:16 AM PDT by I want the USA back (If free speech is taken away, dumb and silent we are led, like sheep to the slaughter: G Washington)
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RE: Less than 3 is greater than 4.1.

Actually, Obama had a 4.9 quarter in Q3 2014. Still not enough to get the economy's GDP above 3 annually.

We should not prematurely celebrate this 4.1 just yet. I'd like to see the ANNUAL GDP. That's the one that counts.


13 posted on 08/08/2018 8:32:28 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Because of tax cuts and eliminating regulations that stifled growth.


14 posted on 08/08/2018 8:33:43 AM PDT by Bruce Kurtz
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When people say that Obama was responsible for the good economy, always ask them to identify the actions that he took to help. They never can. Trump lowered taxes, and reduced regulations with the help of a Republican Congress. Obama’s economy improved notice only after the Republicans took ver Congress.

In desperation, they might give the totally phony argument that Obamacare helped. But if that were the case, the economy would be getting weaker because Obamacare has been eroded.


15 posted on 08/08/2018 8:35:00 AM PDT by djpg
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I think that 4.9 qtr was also the Obamacare enmass payment dump iirc, so it is deceiving. And heck, that was 3 years ago.


16 posted on 08/08/2018 8:35:22 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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It ain’t the same economy

Obozo drove it into the ground. Trump is rescuing it


17 posted on 08/08/2018 8:35:45 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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“Actually, Obama had a 4.9 quarter in Q3 2014.”

After cooking the books.


18 posted on 08/08/2018 8:36:52 AM PDT by CodeToad
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I was under the impression Obama’s GDP, even quarterly, never reached 3.0. Thanks for the correct info.


19 posted on 08/08/2018 8:36:55 AM PDT by moovova
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It is just amazing how dumb supposedly smart people
can be, Jonathan.


20 posted on 08/08/2018 8:38:14 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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