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Senator Murray Statement on Devos Proposal to Abandon Gainful Employment Rule:
U.S. Senator Patty Murray (D-WA) ^ | Aug 10 2018 | U.S. Senator Patty Murray (D-WA)

Posted on 08/10/2018 7:33:25 PM PDT by mdittmar

Washington, D.C. – U.S. Senator Patty Murray (D-WA), ranking member of the Senate Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions (HELP) Committee, released the following statement today on the Department of Education’s proposal to abandon an Obama Administration-era “gainful employment” rule—which would hold predatory career training programs accountable when their students are unable to find jobs that allow them pay back their loans. By its own analysis, the Department’s proposal will cost taxpayers $5.3 billion over ten years.

(Excerpt) Read more at murray.senate.gov ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: devos; education; pattymurray
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I looked up "SWAMP" in the dictionary,It had a picture of patty murray;)
1 posted on 08/10/2018 7:33:25 PM PDT by mdittmar
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To: mdittmar

Patty Murray is the epitome of stupid.


2 posted on 08/10/2018 7:36:14 PM PDT by jospehm20
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DeVos should say either get rid of the rule or apply it across the board to all higher education. Then hear the libs squeal.


3 posted on 08/10/2018 7:45:23 PM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things.)
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I propose a different Gainful Employment rule.

Make education loans dischargeable through bankruptcy court and remove the government backing of them.


4 posted on 08/10/2018 7:45:54 PM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: caseinpoint
Particularly, wimynz studies and grievance-mongering.

And no, Starbucks doesn't count as "employment."

Neither does working at a University, except as a tenure-track professor.

5 posted on 08/10/2018 7:51:12 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: mdittmar

I oppose any changes in national education policy. In fact I oppose the dept of education as unconstitutional and inefficient. 27% administrative cost to set rules and redistribute tax money taken from citizens and states. Let’s close it down.


6 posted on 08/10/2018 7:54:39 PM PDT by morphing libertarian (Use Comey's Report; Indict Hillary now. --- Proud Smelly Walmart Deplorable)
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To: mdittmar

Gainful employment opportunities are inversely proportional to the number of illegal aliens competing for the jobs. QED. Stuff it, Patty Moron.


7 posted on 08/10/2018 8:09:34 PM PDT by rfp1234 (I have already previewed this composition.)
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To: MrEdd

“Make education loans dischargeable through bankruptcy court and remove the government backing of them.”

I still think it is desirable to educate men who have intelligence but no money.


8 posted on 08/10/2018 8:13:12 PM PDT by dsc (Our system of government cannot survive one-party control of communications.)
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predatory career training programs
Looks like bad choices and lazy no-nothing classes don’t pay off.


9 posted on 08/10/2018 8:16:06 PM PDT by ptsal ( Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - M. Twain)
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Thats fine, just teach them something remunerative and you will get the money back.

Or help them save for it.
I used military savings programs instead of loans.


10 posted on 08/10/2018 8:21:09 PM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: mdittmar

Many years ago, Ann Coulter rightly called Patty Murray “the stupidest woman in Congress”.


11 posted on 08/10/2018 9:01:00 PM PDT by simpson96
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There is an old saying in the Senate: "The dumber the senator, the stronger the staff."

For decades, the strongest staffs belonged to Barbara Boxer, Barbara Mikulski, Patty Murray and Ted Kennedy. The three ladies were not the sharpest knives in the drawer, and Kennedy was drunk most of the time.

12 posted on 08/10/2018 9:03:10 PM PDT by Publius
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To: caseinpoint

One doesn’t want to give a free pass to education rackets either.


13 posted on 08/10/2018 9:15:18 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: ptsal

Yet some offerings are so abysmally misleading that to let them qualify seems a travesty in itself.


14 posted on 08/10/2018 9:16:29 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: MrEdd

If we make education loans dischargeable through bankruptcy and remove government backing, who will extend education loans?

“Or help them save for it. I used military savings programs instead of loans.”

That is very commendable, but is it a solution for everyone?


15 posted on 08/10/2018 10:01:29 PM PDT by dsc (Our system of government cannot survive one-party control of communications.)
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Everyone needs to find employment they are capable of, but yes. This used to be the norm.

And makind education debt dischargable should force prices back down, and it makes qualifying for bankruptcy more difficult.


16 posted on 08/10/2018 10:13:15 PM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: mdittmar

So, if I buy a hammer and don’t build a house it’s Home Depot’s fault?


17 posted on 08/11/2018 4:38:11 AM PDT by Feckless (The US Gubbmint / This Tagline CENSORED by FR \ IrOnic, ain't it?)
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I graduated High school and looked around , I saw that everyone needed a house so I walked up to a new foundation with a huge pile of wood next to it in East Bridgewater Massachusetts and located the foreman . I asked if I could get some work and he told me to get an estwing hammer and a tool belt and show up at 7am the next day (I was 17 years old.) I got PAID to learn....a paid apprenticeship you might say . My abilities now include roofing/siding/plumbing/electrical/mechanical/door and window installation/insulating/trim and finish/cabinetry/ceramic and marble installation and I repair my own vehicles . I also did bookkeeping for my Mom’s stenography firm for a half a year . I am now 56 years old and have had 6-7 houses / traveled this great Republic end to end 2 or 3 times / boated our internal rivers (great lakes to Sarasota about a 7 week journey) and am in demand for my skills no matter where I am .....and understand I will dig ditches if need be . I find it absurd to get a loan for learning unless it is law or mathematics or engineering as true application in the real world is most times way different than what is taught in the classroom . Those who can DO , those who can’t teach ! (or become home inspectors..hahahahaha.)


18 posted on 08/11/2018 5:15:54 AM PDT by mythenjoseph
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To: mythenjoseph

Great story!


19 posted on 08/11/2018 5:33:05 AM PDT by csivils
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To: caseinpoint

Agree. Apply it to all schools.


20 posted on 08/11/2018 7:01:14 AM PDT by ActresponsiblyinVA
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