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Fans Outraged Gay Actress Ruby Rose Isn’t Gay Enough to Play Batwoman
Reason ^ | August 13th 2018 | Robby Soave

Posted on 08/13/2018 2:29:22 PM PDT by Ennis85

Disney's forthcoming film The Jungle Cruise will include a prominent gay character, a first for the company. Sounds like a progressive milestone, right? Not according to the intersectional left: Jack Whitehall, the actor cast in the role, is straight—and, gasp, white—which is very problematic.

The CW fared little better in casting Ruby Rose to portray Kate Kane in its upcoming Batwoman show. The character is a Jewish lesbian; Rose is gender fluid and part of the LGBT community, but not Jewish, which isn't good enough for those who think the actor must check off all the same boxes as the character. Rose was attacked on social media and quit Twitter over the weekend.

https://twitter.com/negative_purple/status/1026896793202839553?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1026896793202839553&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Freason.com%2Fblog%2F2018%2F08%2F13%2Fbatwoman-ruby-rose-disney-lesbian-gay

Both these incidents follow Scarlett Johansson's decision to quit Rub & Tug, in which the cis white actress had been slated to play a trans man. Eviscerated for taking a role that should have gone to a trans person, Johansson finally backed out of the film—a decision that GLADD hailed as a "game changer" for the trans community, even though the actress's departure means the movie might not even get made.

This feels a little like the debate over cultural appropriation all over again: many on the left, including and especially the campus left, do not believe that people should engage in rituals, or borrow from other traditions, or cook ethnic food, or wear ethnic clothing, unless they were born a member of that tribe. Similarly, an actor shouldn't portray a marginalized person unless they were oppressed in exactly the same way as the character.

But controversies over Rose, Whitehall, and Johansson also reflect the growing influence of "intersectionality," a popular lefty academic theory that came into existence in the late 1980s, and generally makes several claims: various forms of oppression—sexism, racism, anti-gay animus, economic inequality—are both distinct and interrelated; they "stack"; the sole authority on a person's oppression is that person. Thus, in intersectional thinking, we cannot and should not turn to Ruby Rose to tell the story of a Jewish lesbian, even if she's an excellent and hardworking actress who endured some of the same struggles that the character did.

Obviously, it's important to listen to the marginalized, and intersectionality has value to the extent it encourages us to open our eyes to other people's lived experiences—to listen and learn from each other. Acting, though, quite literally demands imitation: informed and respectful imitation, we hope, but imitation nonetheless. As we become more aware of the various kind of oppression that are out there—and adherents of intersectionality are always adding more of them; able-ism and size-ism are on the rise—it's going to be more and more difficult to tell complicated stories if we demand that the people involved are perfect intersectional matches. The likely demise of Rub & Tug (the film is in "limbo," but things don't look good, according to The Wrap) serves as a useful example.

I'm thus quite skeptical we should aspire to build a world where these cultural boundaries are more rigid—where the perfect is the avowed enemy of the good. I'll throw one more recent example of supposedly insensitive casting at you: there is a person who's furious about the rumor that James Bond, who has always been played by white actors and was written as white in the source material, will be played by Idris Elba, a black man, in future film installments.

"A Black James Bond would be an act of dispossession far greater than a flotilla of a million refugees," wrote this person on Twitter. "Refugees are, after all, refugees. James Bond is a symbol of British identity—indeed, the British empire—and of European masculinity writ large."

This person, of course, is alt-right leader Richard Spencer.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: batwoman; chat; gay; homosexual; lesbian
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To: Gen.Blather

Deadpool is not gay. He almost let himself die to be with his wife in the last movie .


61 posted on 08/13/2018 4:27:08 PM PDT by raybbr (That progressive bumper sticker on your car might just as wll say, "Yes, I'm THAT stupid!")
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To: Snickering Hound

Yuck.


62 posted on 08/13/2018 4:34:48 PM PDT by wally_bert (Terrific! Terrific? Harve Nyquist never ordered any radials.)
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To: Ennis85

I bought a copy of Star Cops audio drama and as much as I liked it, some sjw stuff was very clear.

I liked the old TV show.


63 posted on 08/13/2018 4:36:42 PM PDT by wally_bert (Terrific! Terrific? Harve Nyquist never ordered any radials.)
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To: Disambiguator

Why women, especially pretty ones choose to disfigure themselves is beyond me

I see more and more every day.

Maybe that’s another reason I watch old TV shows and movies.


64 posted on 08/13/2018 4:38:45 PM PDT by wally_bert (Terrific! Terrific? Harve Nyquist never ordered any radials.)
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To: Ennis85

Join me.

The last 20 years I have been #donewithhollywood


65 posted on 08/13/2018 4:49:03 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I heard it was about massages, and clients left happy.


66 posted on 08/13/2018 5:04:49 PM PDT by jdsteel (Americans are Dreamers too!!)
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To: Captain Peter Blood

“I loved Spectre and thought it was pretty good.”

I wish I shared the same sentiment. I thought Waltz was the perfect Blofeld ... but I simply couldn’t get into that movie ... I’ve felt the same way about the other Daniel Craig movies since Casino Royale (and I thought Craig was a great Bond). To each their own though ... the box office draws show I’m in the minority.


67 posted on 08/13/2018 5:20:50 PM PDT by edh
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To: edh

I did think “Skyfall” was well done and pretty good. SO many films out there are just terrible.

Of late I have been binge watching “Inspector Morse”. they are well written and executed, and not coarse language to listen to.


68 posted on 08/13/2018 5:31:40 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: rhubarbk

Most definitely!


69 posted on 08/13/2018 5:36:36 PM PDT by redfreedom (Gun control has proven success! (Such as in Hitler's Germany & Stalin's Russia))
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To: Ennis85

What does it mean to be a Jew?


70 posted on 08/13/2018 5:42:53 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: Ennis85

That’s why the crowdfunded comics like “Alt-Hero” series and Flying Sparks Comics are so valuable.


71 posted on 08/13/2018 5:44:06 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: Ennis85
I liked 1966 "Batgirl" Yvonne Craig - heterosexual both in real life and on TV:

She was so cute that even Adam West appreciated her virtues (yes, that gif is them, and it's real). She even looked good in green - Star Trek, the original series.


72 posted on 08/13/2018 5:59:21 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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73 posted on 08/13/2018 6:00:34 PM PDT by EdnaMode
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To: chris37
I'd like to "scrub" her. Strictly for sanitary purposes, of course. (mild sarc.)
74 posted on 08/13/2018 7:26:32 PM PDT by gigster (Cogito, Ergo, Ronaldus Magnus Conservatus)
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To: Gen.Blather

“Apparently Deadpool is a gay character.”

Um, no. He isn’t.

L


75 posted on 08/13/2018 7:30:24 PM PDT by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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To: gigster

76 posted on 08/13/2018 7:52:22 PM PDT by chris37 ("I am everybody." -Mark Robinson)
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To: Ennis85

I would bet that to the filmmakers/producers, this is basically an excuse for a gay woman character to head up a “hit film”, to further attempt to mainstream that “lifestyle”, with the storyline being completely secondary.


77 posted on 08/14/2018 4:29:47 AM PDT by simpson96
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To: All

I find it amazing how such a small number of people (Twitter Mob/LGBT Community) can hold a country hostage.


78 posted on 08/14/2018 4:47:18 AM PDT by Maverick68
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To: Lysandru

How about a redoing of “Porgy and Bess” with an all white cast. Mel Gibson as Porgy seems right.


79 posted on 08/14/2018 4:49:36 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: raybbr

In the comics, he is now married to a female succubus. The closest thing to gay was Colossus pulling Juggernaut’s pants down and forcing a power line up his butt. Even then, that was more desperation and violence than actual passion.


80 posted on 08/14/2018 9:06:50 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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