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Judge Rules In Favor of Gun Rights Groups, Tosses Out Controversial Ballot Initiative (WA)
townhall.com ^ | 8/19/2018 | Beth Baumann

Posted on 08/19/2018 9:32:10 AM PDT by rktman

SAF Founder and Executive Vice President Alan Gottlieb previously told Townhall that I-1639's signature petitions "failed to underline new law and strike through removed law so that the reader could not know the current law, added law and subtracted law."

Judge James Dixon, who ruled in the case, was very clear about his position. “Frankly, this court does not struggle with this issue,” Dixon said. The law, he said, requires that petitions “must have a readable, full, true, correct copy of the proposed measure.”

“We got our day in court,” Gottlieb said. “We expected it. We won.”

(Excerpt) Read more at townhall.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Philosophy; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: 2a; banglist; kaba; wa
Wait, what? In Washington state? Sounds like the judge needs a visit from margabby kellygiffords or former mare nanny bloomers to get his attitude adjusted.
1 posted on 08/19/2018 9:32:10 AM PDT by rktman
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To: rktman

NON print:

https://townhall.com/notebook/bethbaumann/2018/08/18/judge-rules-in-favor-of-gun-rights-groups-tosses-out-controversial-ballot-initiative-n2510847


2 posted on 08/19/2018 9:32:34 AM PDT by rktman (Enlis ted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: rktman

bookmark


3 posted on 08/19/2018 9:33:59 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: rktman
The judge didn't even need to get to the substantive issue. If the text is confusing, then it should not become law, or eligible to become law. Period. Void for vagueness is a pretty simple standard to follow.

The Left is apparently arguing that they should not even be bound by that anymore. Law is what they say it means, when they say it, no matter what they said last week.

4 posted on 08/19/2018 9:38:28 AM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: rktman

Very glad to hear this, as I was worried that the bait and switch used last time to pass the “universal background check on gun transfers” would work again. At least this is a reprieve. And by the time they are able to bring this around again, I hope to be safely in Texas and away from Californicated Washington.


5 posted on 08/19/2018 9:39:06 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: Teacher317

“We have to pass it so you can find out what’s in it.”


6 posted on 08/19/2018 9:39:30 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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Taken from the end of the article:

“We’re confident that the Supreme Court will reverse” the ruling, Greg Wong, an attorney for the campaign, told the Seattle Times.

Ha! Based on what?

7 posted on 08/19/2018 9:39:54 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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It’s really only King County that is the liberal land.


8 posted on 08/19/2018 9:52:42 AM PDT by MarMema (John James for US Senate. Dump Debbie!! Let's Fly Michigan.)
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To: Wonder Warthog

Well, bait and switch worked in NV. Only problem was the new intergalactic background rules “require” using the fbi. But, NV uses its own system so......... DOH! Nobody is willing to compromise including the fbi. Piss poor planning on the antis part.


9 posted on 08/19/2018 10:03:05 AM PDT by rktman (Enlis ted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: MarMema
I know. There is Seattle and there is Washington state. Like we have Vegas and we have Nevada. I live in Nevada. 👹👍🏼🇺🇸
10 posted on 08/19/2018 10:05:03 AM PDT by rktman (Enlis ted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: MarMema
It’s really only King County that is the liberal land.

They have a lot of help from Western Pierce County and Southern Snohomish County as well.

11 posted on 08/19/2018 10:06:22 AM PDT by fireman15
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We just sold our second home out there in Pacific County, which we thought was solidly conservative.

However, then a new tree cutting rule emerged - nothing over 4 inches without a $285 permit. Permit to take 4-6 weeks.

So much for property rights.

12 posted on 08/19/2018 10:10:27 AM PDT by MarMema (John James for US Senate. Dump Debbie!! Let's Fly Michigan.)
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To: fireman15

OOps forgot to say and of course downtown Olympia itself. Which is why I was surprised to see a Thurston county judge ruling on this...


13 posted on 08/19/2018 10:11:55 AM PDT by MarMema (John James for US Senate. Dump Debbie!! Let's Fly Michigan.)
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However, then a new tree cutting rule emerged - nothing over 4 inches without a $285 permit. Permit to take 4-6 weeks.

I like the fact that the prior owners of my land, and the ones before them, left a number of nice mature oaks. That said, it was their choices and my choice. Having full property rights means I can decide what is most valuable, and keep my trees if I don't need the money from the lumber.

14 posted on 08/19/2018 10:30:40 AM PDT by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: rktman

Kind of a TKO but I’ll take it!


15 posted on 08/19/2018 10:34:24 AM PDT by rockrr ( Everything is different now...)
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To: GOP Poet
Ha! Based on what?

Feelings.

16 posted on 08/19/2018 10:35:32 AM PDT by rockrr ( Everything is different now...)
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To: rktman

A judicial blind squirrel.


17 posted on 08/19/2018 10:45:27 AM PDT by daler
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To: Teacher317

“The Left is apparently arguing that they should not even be bound by that anymore. Law is what they say it means, when they say it, no matter what they said last week.”

Nailed it.


18 posted on 08/19/2018 11:49:48 AM PDT by avenir ("But as for you, teach what accords with sound doctrine."--Paul to Titus)
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I had no idea about tree cutting permits in Pacific County... what a load of BS.


19 posted on 08/19/2018 4:01:22 PM PDT by fireman15
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