Posted on 08/20/2018 3:04:31 AM PDT by BeadCounter
Expert says China is using drug trade to destroy America
WASHINGTON—The illicit opioids being manufactured in China and shipped to the United States are “almost a form of warfare,” President Donald Trump said at a cabinet meeting on Aug. 16.
“In China, you have some pretty big companies sending that garbage and killing our people,” Trump said.
More than 71,500 Americans died of a drug overdose in 2017, according to provisional data released Aug. 15 by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. At least 68 percent of those deaths can be attributed to opioids.
Believe it or not, it appears the "opium wars" of the 19th century were fought by the Brits and brought opium into China. See linked article. I'm certainly no historian on this.
Besides, as Trump says in the above excerpt, this needs to be cracked down on.
China sees it as payback for their “Hundred Years of Humiliation”.
This whole, “trade with us favorably long enough and we will turn out as a Chinese version of you” is one huge CON JOB.
Just like most exports from China.
You are correct. The Opium Wars were fought to force the Chinese to accept Opium. This is Karma.
A lot of people, mainly liberals, blame the opioid epidemic on the pharmaceutical industry. Granted, there’s blame to go around. But people ignore the connection with drugs coming across the border which a wall would help. Plus a lot of illegals carrying drugs as payment to get here. Then you have places like Mexifornia letting so called non violent crooks outta jail and lessening sentences. Many families are destroyed by this epidemic and then it spawns wicked rehab industries. It’s a war and the purpose of this site is to place blame and to be fair the liberal politicians i.e. democrats, socialists, commies are the usual suspects. Trump is a good man. He’s like Gulliver with all of the lilliputians holding him down.
Why would anyone buy fish from China?
I read just yesterday that the Taliban had wiped out the poppy in Afghanistan. The golden triangle remains. Perhaps PRC will insert itself into Afghanistan and Make Afghanistan Great Again. There are profits to be made there.
//snark//
52% of prescription opioids are written for patients on Medicaid, or for Social Security Disability patients who “graduate” to Medicare after one year on Medicaid.
48% of opioid prescriptions are written for patients with private health insurance or for elderly patients on Medicare.
The CDC did not give exact numbers, but I would be very surprised if more than 25% of adults are on Medicaid or Disability, even though they get 52% of the opioids.
I will also speculate that the Medicaid and Disability patients are responsible for at least one half of the opioid prescription deaths, either by self-overdose or selling their opioids to other people.
And the beat goes on....
https://www.cpsc.gov/Business—Manufacturing/International/Chinese/Monthly-Recall-Summaries
How many of these are purposeful?
Sort of like the 19th century Opium Wars in reverse.
This all changed in the 1770s, when England conquered India and Burma. Britain needed large sums of money to colonise these two vast tracts of land, and opium was the answer. Taxes levied on the product brought in the much needed revenue while Britain's merchant ships carried it to the most convenient market: China.
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By this time, there were literally millions of addicts in the country. The new government immediately set about coping with the monumental problem. Peasants were persuaded to plough in their opium crops and sow wheat or rice instead. Neighbourhoods were mobilised in a massive educational programme. The street committees which governed the neighbourhoods held study groups in which the evils of opium and heroin were discussed. Families of known addicts were educated not to blame their addict members, but to encourage them to seek help. Addicts themselves were impressed by the fact that they were not blamed for their addiction, since they were considered victims of foreign governments and other enemies of the people. After their cure, they were given training and then placed in paying jobs. Many of them were hired by the government to work with other addicts.
At the same time, pressure was placed on the dealers. Those who surrendered were accepted by the community, re-educated, trained for meaningful work and given jobs. The rest were packed off to prison, and the worst offenders were executed. By 1956, the People's Republic of China had virtually eliminated its drug problem.
For 17 years now I’ve been saying that the poppy fields in the Middle East and elsewhere in the world are for all intents and purposes, chemical weapons of mass destruction. These are not the kinds of weapons used to ensure “peace through strength”, they’re being used to attack America’s youth and therefore our ability to wage war. We like to say that our children are the future of this country but their future will involve caring for their own generation’s casualties over the next 30-40 years. There is no nuke we can drop, no psy-ops, no cyber attack, etc. that will deter our enemies from continuing this molestation of our youth. A shift back towards socialism will be the death of us and for the most part it could be chalked up to parents not wanting to scare their young children by instilling in them a rational fear of things that people should not put into their bodies. Things like heroin, cocaine, crystal meth, prescription (opium-derived) pain medication, household and office inhalants, synthetic smoking materials such as K2 Spice, LSD and Ecstasy, certain mushrooms and other fungi,...Our culture seems to have been giving our young ones more than enough rope to hang themselves with. Why would we do that?
Great Britain was paying dearly to feed its appetite for tea, especially. But China had no real interest in most goods that the British wanted to trade. In modern terms, the British were running a huge trade deficit with the Chinese.
But there was one good that the British discovered that they could bring into China that the Chinese would actually buy: opium. They took chests of opium across the Indian Ocean from their colonial possessions in India and sold it in China. Opium addiction spread quickly in China, and among all classes,...
Finally, in 1838, the Qing emperor Daoguang appointed a very accomplished and highly conscientious scholar-official from Fujian named Lin Zexu as commissioner to suppress the opium trade. He took a very hard line, ordering British (and American) ships to turn over the opium they had in their holds, and seizing the ships forcibly when those orders were refused. He seized and destroyed some 3 million pounds of raw opium.
Not without considerable debate in Parliament, a pro-war faction in London won out, and a fleet was dispatched with the aim of blowing open China to trade, and gaining reparation for the opium that had been seized.
Maoist China was never as gentle as the China Now propaganda would have you believe.
Agreed. The U.S.A. wasn’t so gentle during times of necessary roughness for solving problems, either, until so many Americans started getting high.
If we’re going to have a “War on Drugs”, then let’s have a real war and start executing dealers.
“More than 71,500 Americans died of a drug overdose in 2017, according to provisional data released Aug. 15 by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. At least 68 percent of those deaths can be attributed to opioids.”
Let’s do some rough math here. That comes to about 50,000 opioid deaths a year. The latest figure I could find, from 2015 was that about 92 million American adults were prescribed opioids. That puts deaths at about 0.05% of people who got pain relief from them. One out of 2,000 people. Time to concentrate on those who are actual addicts instead of making it harder on the vast majority who use them responsibly to get relief, such as requiring a doctor visit for each refil, which does nothing but enrich doctors and drive up health insurance costs for everyone.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/more-than-one-third-americans-prescribed-opioids-in-2015/
I would never knowingly buy fish from Chinese waters .
We have neither been he will, nor the coherence to meaningfully tackle our drug problem. Meanwhile, 100 ODed in New Haven at the Green last week........
There seems to be a confusion of topics on this thread. There is a domestic opioid problem of excesses with prescribed medications.
The second problem has to do with drugs cominging out of china. It is my understanding the imported drug is fentanal thaat somehow gets mixed into illegal manufaactured drugs. Fentanal is powerful and kills.
Two solutions are required.
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