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To: Candor7
As I wrote elsewhere, society has changed quite a bit, especially since 1980. Reagan's divorce was considered a liability in some circles at that time and Gary Hart's candidacy was killed due to his impropriety. Indeed part of the reason Shemp Kennedy didn't get the nod in 1980 was that Dems realized society wasn't ready for a murderer.

Over the ensuing years a great deal continues to be written and said about the importance of the President's morality. True, during Clinton's presidency - especially during the Lewinsky episode - Republicans made a YUGE issue about morals. The Dems, never a group that was big on unchanging truth, basically said whatever happens between two consenting adults is nobody's business. That may be bad morality, but it reflected the zeitgeist (perhaps formed by a willing MSM)....Clinton was impeached but not removed - and he didn't step down.

To a certain extent, though, the Clinton situation was an anomaly. The Dems wouldn't surrender Clinton; it was a political necessity to not abandon ship. Over the ensuing years, many people - including Algore and even Hillary - spoke of Bill's actions as being reprehensible.

And so we continued flying the morality flag:

-In large measure, the Republicans held on to this "morality at all cost" approach at the Executive level - it is in part what got us W, McCain (with his multiple divorces, yes, but again society got over that in 1980), then Willard.

-To a certain extent, the Dems also played this game - they ran Gore, Lurch (yea, Mr Heinz but that was at least ok in a Biblical sense), dropped John Edwards REAL fast, ran Obama then Hillary.

All of these candidates (with the great exception of Hillary) were pretty clean morally: intact and loving marriages, went to church, etc.

Trump failed that morality test set up by the parties. The guy was an alley cat in his younger days, with two ex-wives to boot. Against the other 16 or so Republican candidates, Trump looked like a moral degenerate.

When Billy Bush's video tape with "locker room talk" arose, that that should have torpedoed Trump. Trump turned it into an asset, bringing the woman Bill Clinton abused out of dark and into the campaign.

It is also reported that Trump had a sort of epiphany, a "born again" like moment during the campaign. I think this is a vital element in this saga: a key to Trump's success with Deplorables who otherwise would not want a guy like him being around their daughters, is that he has acknowledged his past and - dare I say - repented and received blessings . He never lied about or twisted his less-than-stellar morality in his younger years. He HAS remarried and stayed faithful but he acknowledges he's not perfect.

In contrast, there are websites dedicated to the victims of Arkancide.

I have found these better behaviors very helpful when the little DoodleBobs ask about Trump's past. History is filled with heros who failed the smell test. They all rose above their imperfections. Trump isn't perfect but I am convinced he'd wouldn't be successful today if it wasn't for this repentance and honesty.

19 posted on 08/23/2018 12:42:46 PM PDT by DoodleBob
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To: DoodleBob

“——especially since 1980. Reagan’s divorce was considered a liability in some circles at that time “


Betty Ford’s divorce caused some controversy also.

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21 posted on 08/23/2018 12:46:27 PM PDT by Mears
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To: DoodleBob

Like I said, and I will repeat:

If PDJT has committed a crime, lets see your evidence. Otherwise STFU !

Meanwhile our president is the target of a Joseph Goebbels like propaganda initiative designed to further Americas sinking into liberal fascism all by by the Dems and losers of 2016.THEY WERE BEATEN LIKE A DRUM, and we will serve it up again to them.

The context of all this tripe served up as if it was adjudicated truth serves to create a society ruled by liberal fascist who refuse to enforce the laws or observe the Constitution.

Here is the context of all this foolish tripe:

The Quintessential Liberal Fascist:

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html

AND

Death of a Nation, Dinesh D’Souza:

https://www.dineshdsouza.com/


22 posted on 08/23/2018 12:51:53 PM PDT by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism)http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: DoodleBob

Good points, but Clinton’s only real problem happened while in office. For now, we have accusations from two binbo’s who have violated the law by not adhering to the legally binding NDA....at least with Daniels.

There will be an armed insurrection if Trump is impeached and removed from office.


24 posted on 08/23/2018 12:58:58 PM PDT by PSUGOP
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To: DoodleBob
Against the other 16 or so Republican candidates, Trump looked like a moral degenerate.
DJT won election against Hillary, and against everything - literally everything short of creating a public scandal during the campaign - that a sitting POTUS was able to do to prevent his election.

The reason that Trump defeated "the other 16 or so Republican candidates” was that unlike them, Trump demonstrated that he would fight. And fight he did, in circumstances which would have forced any other Republican out of the race.

Especially given the dirty tricks which we know in retrospect Trump faced from Democrats with the knowledge of the POTUS, it is a historical fact that no other Republican would have won. It was never a choice between Trump and a squeaky clean candidate, it was a choice between Trump and Hillary. And there was a distinction but not a difference between Hillary and Obama. The right of the people to select a president other than a Democrat would have been extinguished; indeed the Democrats thought they already had that in the bag. And SCOTUS would have gone along with the possibility of any future Republican POTUS. The Constitution was in the balance.

. . . and Democrats such as news broadcasters seriously think they can push Trump out!!


45 posted on 08/23/2018 3:36:05 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (Journalism promotes itself - and promotes big government - by speaking ill of society.)
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