Former CDC director Thomas Frieden arrested on sex abuse charge

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[E. Pluribus Unum]

He grabbed her by the buttock and stopped when told to stop.

This would only be a crime for Trump.

[SteveH]

http://ypdcrime.com/penal.law/article130.htm#p130.52

S 130.52 Forcible touching.

A person is guilty of forcible touching when such person
intentionally, and for no legitimate purpose:
1. forcibly touches the sexual or other intimate parts of another
person for the purpose of degrading or abusing such person, or for the
purpose of gratifying the actor’s sexual desire; or
2. subjects another person to sexual contact for the purpose of
gratifying the actor’s sexual desire and with intent to degrade or abuse
such other person while such other person is a passenger on a bus,
train, or subway car operated by any transit agency, authority or
company, public or private, whose operation is authorized by New York
state or any of its political subdivisions.
For the purposes of this section, forcible touching includes
squeezing, grabbing or pinching.
Forcible touching is a class A misdemeanor.

[SteveH]

this seems like a poorly worded law, in particular

1. what is a “legitimate purpose”?

2. in what situations specifically is sexual touching considered not in violation of this law?

3. what constitutes sexual contact?

4. how is a person’s sexual desire discerned legally?

[Kickass Conservative]

Back in the 90’s, the Corporation I worked for had all us Management types go through Sexual Harassment Avoidance Training.

A Female Manager I worked with came out of that Training as paranoid as she could be. She was a lovely Woman and a tough as nails Manager, but she questioned any Physical Contact she ever had with anyone at Work.

Patting someone on the shoulder, giving a fellow Employee a hug on their Birthday, anything. Same Sex or Opposite Sex made no difference. Socializing and Personal Interaction with anyone at Work was deemed suspect in her mind.

The big part of the Training dealt with the fact that you as an Employee could be Sued Personally if you were accused of any unacceptable Behavior. (Unacceptable in the eyes of the beholder)

After that her entire disposition changed. Her paranoia changed her Management Style and not for the better. She went from being considered a tough but fair by the book Manager to being called a Bitch behind her back.

Unattended consequences and all that Jazz...

[Kickass Conservative]

>>>Unattended consequences and all that Jazz...<<<

Unintended... LOL

[Soros Billions]

Not good news for any woman that may desire to be touched by a man.

[Soros Billions]

While I relish the fact he is a RAT Touching the bottom of a woman you know in your home, give me a break!

[Soros Billions]

If the victim was a man would it be ok?

[Flaming Conservative]

Unattended consequences and all that Jazz...

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It’s gotten completely out of hand. I mean, yeah, someone like Ben Affleck digitally penetrating someone, if true, of COURSE that is over the line. But grabbing someone’s butt just once? Unless a slew of women come forward and accuse him (truthfully), then, no. If these women didn’t complain at the time, tell him off, or slap him upside the head, forget it. (I’m talking about minor stuff like grabbing her butt). A guy at a party patted me on the head once; I was petite, and he thought I was cute. Maybe I should try to remember his name and go after him.
On the other hand, if I were on a bus, and some creep I didn’t know, came up behind me and grabbed my butt, yeah, he’s going to get reported in immediate, no uncertain terms. But that’s a bit different. That’s Stranger Danger.

[Kickass Conservative]

Nowadays anything and everything is a Federal Offense.

Imagine a young Man on a first Date going in for a Kiss and the Woman dials 911.

I’m a 65 Year Old guy and I had a good time while I was in my 20’s. I wonder what I would have been accused of in today’s crazy world.

Don’t recall any complaints, nobody ever slapped me and I was never Arrested. LOL

[VTenigma]

When I was a young guy and we were at a party, it was the women playing grab ass. It never occurred to me I could call the cops on them. Maybe I can remember a few names and do it now.