Posted on 08/25/2018 7:16:32 AM PDT by Kaslin
“JFK had a legendary love life. Did one of his affairs connect him with the mob?” (CNN, promoting its Kennedy family hagiography, March 31, 2018.)
“Legendary” –whether morally-neutral or complimentary or both-- is not exactly the terminology CNN is employing with regard to President Trump’s “love life.”
Consensual and discreet adulterous affairs distant (both time-wise and geographically) from the White House do not qualify a “love life” as “legendary” with CNN.
But apparently, feeding amyl-nitrate poppers to a starstruck 19 year-old, taking her virginity in the very White House bed and directing her to fellate a 50-year old friend while watching does.
Or has CNN forgotten about Mimi Alford? A reminder:
“When a reveler (at a celebrity party) passed around a tray of sex drug amyl nitrate, writes Mimi Alford, the president (JFK) asked her if she wanted to try it. “I said no,’ Alford recalls, ‘but he just went ahead and popped the capsule and held it under my nose. I ran crying from the room".
A few months earlier an aghast Nikita Khrushchev was reading repeated pleadings and cajolings from Fidel Castro to quit pussyfooting around and launch a nuclear strike against the U.S. Just as the shaken Khrushchev frantically ordered his officers in Cuba to keep Fidel Castro and Che Guevara FAR AWAY from the launch buttons! and get the missiles OUT!”—at this very time JFK was romping in the White house bed with the 19 year-old Mimi Alford!
Mere months earlier dozens of Cuban exiles (many of them college kids about Mimi Alford’s age) were infiltrating Cuba and bringing out eye-witness reports of what remains the biggest military threat to the U.S. since 1812. In the process dozens were also dying by firing squad and torture at the hands of Castro and Che Guevara’s KGB- tutored secret police.
For all the good the Cubans did:
“Nothing but refugee rumors,” sneered JFK’s National Security advisor, McGeorge Bundy on ABC’s Issues and Answers on October 14, 1962. “Nothing in Cuba presents a threat to the United States,” continued the Ivy League luminary, barely masking his scorn for these hot-headed and deceitful Cubans and their sensational reports of missiles. “There’s no likelihood that the Soviets or Cubans would try and install an offensive capability in Cuba,” he scoffed.
And for all the thanks the Cubans got:
“There's fifty-odd-thousand Cuban refugees in this country," sneered President Kennedy himself the following day, "all living for the day when we go to war with Cuba. They're the ones putting out this kind of stuff."
Exactly 48 hours later U-2 photos sat on the President’s desk revealing those “refugee rumors,” complete with nuclear warheads, and pointed directly at Bundy, JFK and their entire staff of sagacious Ivy League wizards.
"We ended up getting exactly what we'd wanted all along,” snickered Khrushchev in his memoirs regarding Kennedy’s “resolution” of the resulting “crisis.”: “Security for Fidel Castro's regime and American missiles removed from Turkey. Until today, the U.S. has complied with her promise to not interfere with Castro and to not allow anyone else to interfere with Castro [italics mine].
After the Missile Crisis "resolution," the U.S. Coast Guard and even the British navy (when some intrepid exile freedom fighters moved their operation to the Bahamas and Kennedy notified his chum, British PM Harold Mc Millan of their intrepidness) shielded Castro from exile attacks. In the Florida Keys and Bahamas they were arresting and disarming the very exiles the CIA had been training and arming the month before.
In his diaries Khrushchev snickers further: "it would have been ridiculous for us to go to war over Cuba–for a country 8,000 miles away. For us, war was unthinkable." So much for the threat that so rattled the Knights of Camelot and inspired such cinematic and literary epics of drama and derring-do by their court scribes and court cinematographers (i.e. the MSM and Hollywood.)
Eighteen months after the botched Bay of Pigs invasion, two months after his deal with Khrushchev (and shortly after the amyl-nitrate party) a guilt-stricken JFK ransomed the surviving Bay of Pigs freedom-fighters back from Castro's dungeons. Living under a daily firing-squad sentence for almost two years these Cuban freedom-fighters –aware it would probably save their lives--had refused to sign the confession damning the “U.S. Imperialists” (the very nation, which for all they knew at the time, that had betrayed them on that beachhead.) “We will die with dignity!” responded their second-in-command Erneido Oliva to his furious KGB-trained interrogators, again and again and again.
To Castroites such an attitutde not only enrages, but baffles.
On Dec. 29, 1962, these Cuban freedom fighters, many on crutches others in wheelchairs gathered with their destitute and traumatized families in Miami’s Orange Bowl to hear President Kennedy address them. “I am here today not to be honored—but to pay honor,” intoned the U.S. president. “I know of no men in modern history who showed more courage under more difficult conditions than those before me today.”
The president continued in this vein and upon completing his tribute the Cuban freedom-fighters handed him their sacred battle flag, a gesture which surprised and seemed to deeply move the U.S. president.
“I promise to deliver this Brigade banner to you in a free Havana!" he beamed at the freedom-fighters and their loved-ones.
The stadium erupted: “CUBA LIBRE!” yelled the delirious crowd while hugging and cheering and sobbing. “CUBA-LIBRE!” yelled men (and boys) who’d snickered in the face of KGB torturers weeks earlier, but now wept openly. The hour of liberation seemed nigh, and with the full backing of “The Leader of the Free World.”
But AH!--two months earlier this same Leader of the Free World had made a different pledge to Khrushchev, ensuring anything but a Cuba Libre; promising, in fact, that Havana would remain Communist, as enforced by U.S. arms.
And the following fifty years showed which pledge the U.S. honored. The pledge to the Butcher of Budapest to preserve Castroite Stalinism has proven sacrosanct--while the pledge of liberty to the men who risked their lives to warn the U.S. of the greatest threat in her history was trashed.
Mimi Alford, on the other hand, claims the president was always perfectly honest with her.
Just think: if those rascally Kennedy brothers had liked boys instead of girls, they could have become priests.
Ain't it the truth. Silicone Stormy ought to count her blessings and STHU.
Name a left wing JFK policy.
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The Cuban Missile Crises for one. Donald Trump would have never allowed the United States to be held hostage for decades by a puny Communist country like Cuba. Nor would he have allowed a debacle like the Bay of Pigs.
I am not blaming the Russians for being Russians. Their character varies little, regardless of whatever governing philosophy they embrace. I blame many of the high officials in this country for failing to recognize the unwavering drive for expansion that has ALWAYS been a part and parcel of Russian policy, every time they have been presented with an opportunity.
Trump has apparently seen through this sometimes very purposefully concealed objective, and is acting appropriately, if not to reverse the expansionism, at least to contain it in acceptable channels.
There are numerous footnotes in Bill O'Reilly's book, Killing Kennedy, that pin down the sources for his detailed description of Kennedy's dalliances inside the White House and elsewhere, including interviews with Secret Service agents; and there are many, many other published accounts. I grew up in the DC area. Many of our family friends worked in, or in contract to, the White House. We heard things. Stories about JFK's womanizing appeared in our local newspaper even before he was elected president. Your idol had tarnish on his halo. He was perhaps our first opiod addict president.
You say that if JFK were alive today, he would be shocked to see what the democrat party has become. I hear this kind of thinking in college seminars about historical figures, ignoring the political pressures and evolution that would have taken place in all these intervening years. He would have been targeted, as Teddy was targeted, by Russian agents and others eager to take down the ruling elite and destroy our country. Teddy was as a Catholic, opposed to abortion, until communist party agents found some willing Jesuit priests to "counsel" him and bring him around to support abortion as if it were acceptable Catholicism. You have no idea the evil this drug-addicted, easily blackmailable man JFK would have been subjected to. It's hard to junkies to stand straight under intense coercion.
If you have some time this weekend, read former communist agent Bella Dodd's book School of Darkness, that details how the communist party infiltrated schools, churches and government throughout the last century.
Alrighty.
1) Proudly supported universal health care and repeatedly bashed the Republicans for not getting aboard and working with him on socialized medicine.
2) Vehemently opposed immigration and naturalization laws based on national origin, favored an "overhaul" that would allow massive immigration from third world countries from Latin America and Asia with different culture and standards of living from our own. His brother Ted later got this "reform" passed in 1965 as a "tribute" to JFK, resulting in the massive amounts of third world immigration we have today.
3) Kennedy supported replacing the death penalty with so-called "life" sentences, and commuted a death sentence imposed by a military court on seaman Jimmie Henderson on February 12, 1962, changing the penalty to life in prison. On March 22, 1962, Kennedy signed into law HR5143 (PL87-423), which abolished the death penalty for first degree murder suspects in the District of Columbia. The death penalty has since been been abolished in D.C., thanks to Kennedy's "leadership".
4) Kennedy was a strong supporter of Labor Unions like the AFL-CIO, and continually promoted an increase in the minimum wage and massive new federal guidelines and red tape to punish corporations for not kow-towing to the demands of corrupt labor unions.
5) Kennedy believed in the "right" of education to all thru massive new federal government entitlements, and made this a centerpiece of his "New Frontier" campaign program. An estimated one-third of all major New Frontier programs made some form of education a vital element, and the Office of Education called it "the most significant legislative period in its hundred-year history".
6) Welfare benefits were greatly expanded under Kennedy. The Public Welfare Amendments of 1962 provided for greater Federal sharing in the cost of rehabilitative services to applicants, recipients, and persons likely to become applicants for public assistance. It increased the Federal share in the cost of public assistance payments, and permitted the States to combine the various categories into one category. The amendments also made permanent the 1961 amendment which extended aid to dependent children to cover children removed from unsuitable homes.
7) Omnibus Housing Bill 1961. In March 1961 President Kennedy sent Congress a special message, proposing an ambitious and complex housing program to spur the economy, revitalize cities, and provide affordable housing for middle- and low-income families. The bill proposed spending $3.19 billion and placed major emphasis on improving the existing housing supply, instead of on new housing starts, and creating a cabinet-level Department of Housing and Urban Affairs to oversee the programs.
8) Kennedy broadened the distribution of surplus food, created a "pilot" Food Stamp program for poor Americans, directed that preference be given to distressed areas in defense contracts, and expanded the services of U.S. Employment Office.
9) Under Kennedy, the Health Services for Agricultural Migratory Workers Act (1962) established "a program of federal grants for family clinics and other health services for migrant workers and their families
10) The Clean Air Act (1963) greatly expanded the powers of the federal government in "preventing and controlling air pollution." The water pollution prevention program was doubled. More aid was provided to localities to combat water pollution
I could go on and on, do you need dozens of more examples? In what world is a guy who fawns over the "legacy" of Woodrow Wilson and Franklin Roosevelt's massive expansion of government, and bashes Republicans for opposing all that stuff, "more conservative than today's Republicans?" In what world is Lyndon Johnson's "Great Society", passed as a "tribute" to JFK and containing dozens of massive left-wing policies that were each wholeheartily supported by JFK (thus giving LBJ ammo to convince Congress to pass those laws to "honor" Kennedy), the result of Kennedy's "conservative" views?
In contrast to scores of liberal policies on tons of different issues, The ONLY "conservative" thing you've cited is that JFK "cut taxes" and was "anti-communist". By those standards, Barack Obama is "conservative", since he pushed to continue the Bush tax cuts, and spoke out against North Korea's communist regime.
Finally, look no further than Ronald Reagan himself. JFK was even too liberal for Reagan WHEN REAGAN WAS STILL A DEMOCRAT. Reagan was a "Democrat for Nixon" in 1960, because he disagreed with Kennedy's LIBERAL ideas for America.
Seems you and the Gipper have very different views on JFK.
Dude, are you seriously pushing this crap AGAIN ?
I mean JFK was basically your typical, “Let’s let government solve all our ills.” When he was asking youngsters to serve America, he was really asking them to serve big government. We were already three decades in to the government was too f’ing big and invasive and he wanted to make it even more so. Conservative ? Nope. Socialist ? Yup. Does that make him “Conservative” compared to the Democrats today ? That’s only because the Democrats are so openly Communist. Had he lived to 1972, he’d have been campaigning with Communist McGovern (or his brothers) as a loyal Democrat.
I think even if he was magically brought from 1963 to 2016, he’d have campaigned with Hillary. The Klan-supported Democrat Governor of Alabama (1959-63) and a Kennedyite, John Patterson, unapologetically endorsed Zero for President in 2008. You know full well so would have JFK.
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On economics, JFK was far more conservative than Trump!
He believed in a fully backed currency, and that was why he was taken out.
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He was still a Socialist. The last non-Socialist/non-Communist the Democrats nominated for President was John W. Davis in 1924, and the left went bat$hit crazy that the GOP and Democrats both nominated non-leftists that year and went with the ultraleft RINO nutter WI Sen. Bob La Follette, Sr. The party would never tolerate that again. 1904 and 1924 were the sole times they deviated from the leftist route since 1896. JFK was no different.
Thank GOD!
Two Brothers?
Who can forget Billy Beer?
They seem to have trouble assimilating into their OWN!
At least in Chicago!
Two other great Kennedy books are Victor Lasky’s JFK: THE MAN AND THE MYTH, which is 586 pages and published in 1962. It details the way Kennedy played all sides of every issue whenever possible. JFK was a master at going after Liberal votes while pandering to conservative Democrats in the South.
Seymour Hersh’s THE DARK SIDE OF CAMELOT is written by a former Kennedy liberal who came to terms with the truth. Hersh knocks down the many myths of JFK from his “1200 words-per-minute speed reading” to his “tough” work
schedule. He covers the mistresses and availability-selling with the media.
At LEAST it wasn't theology!
There are ‘dalliances’ and then there are severe descents into criminal debauchery. If JFK raped a young girl in the WH, took her virginity, and forced her to perform fellatio, then he is a devil and deserves to be expunged from history.
But we don’t know the character of his failings.
Bill Clinton was a predator, proven and possibly a rapist. Because he was proven to be a person that saw no boundary for himself in the Oval Office, we are allowed to think the worst in him.
Donald Trump is not a saint but his record shows he took care of all those he had relations with. We do not know if the recent prostitutes are telling the truth about him And there is nothing sinister in his past to make us think it was as bad as Clinton’s behavior.
Truman, Eisenhower, LBJ had their discreet mistresses. Nixon I don’t know about. Carter, Reagan, GW Bush appear to have been chaste. Obama is a mystery.
We have a fair understanding that JFK had relations with Marilyn Monroe. JFK was exceedingly handsome. Monroe was exceedingly seductive. It’s not rocket science to predict what likely happened.
But it seems far out of character to think JFK was a predatory monster like Clinton.
Would we like our leaders to be chaste and set good examples? Of course. But so long as it is not criminal and perverse, Americans are pragmatic and will agree that what happens in private is secondary to what happens in public.
What I see is certain Kennedy haters (and I share their vehemence toward Teddy) take the rumored failings of JFK and stretch those failings to their most sinister version. I believe there can be exaggerations. None of it is proven.
Clinton’s predatory acts were proven, there was no rumor to them.
But JFK’s are neither proven nor unproven.
Sticking with JFK vs. Clinton comparisons, their private dalliances were as disparate as their public accomplishments. Clinton wrecked Treasury finances and set the stage for the mortgage and financial market collapse with the signing of the repeal of Glass-Steagall. He sold out or incompetently lost sensitive rocket technology to the Chinese Communists, He recklessly entered the US into a Kosovo war that made no sense. He started the practice of allowing the Saudis to pay for the US military as a mercenary force. He had no leadership, he had megalomania, narcissist and sociopathic behavior and the example he set in office apart from the sexual scandals was that of a President who accomplished nothing and made the American people feel dirty and cheap.
In contrast, JFK stared down the Soviets in Cuba, opposed the CIA and their games in Cuba, faced off the criminal banksters behind the Federal Reserve (my issue), cut taxes, acted against bigoted racist democrats in the South, inspired scientists and engineers to work harder than ever to develop a cornucopia of innovations, demanded excellence in the WH, set a good example in public, won the begrudging respect of Kremlin hardliners, cut taxes, created a foundation for economic expansion and increased prosperity, and checked Soviet influence in Southeast Asia without resorting to a huge senseless deployment of the US military as LBJ pursued. By all accounts, JFK was a very good President, very promising and most everyone agrees it is a shame he did not have the opportunity to make firm his reputation and legacy.
I will repeat that Trump. like Reagan, spoke glowingly of JFK. Our POTUS today is the best chance we have of shoving the hardcore left into the dustbin of history. He likes the imagery of JFK, he also liked young JFK Jr. greatly and has alluded to a possible hit on JFK Jr.’s plane which mysteriously fell out of the sky.
As far as classical liberalism. I’ll take one like Alan Dershowitz over a fake conservative like Ben Sasse any day of the week. I will not be pigeon-holed into broad categories of ideologies populated by charlatans. Corruptocrat Haley Barbour was a democrat who conveniently became a republican when the Reagan revolution was in full swing. To hell with party labels. I am moved only by records of faithful service, acknowledgment of the truth, to justice, and to how society is inspired and dignified by the performance of their leaders. Zell Miller has a higher rating in my home than does Mitch McConnell, Paul Ryan or his drunk predecessor John Boehner. And what about that pedophile Dennis Hastert? The only reason to support the GOP is to have a Congress that will get behind this POTUS’s agenda.
Reagan was a democrat who woke up as a Republican because his industry had been taken over by debauched Stalinistic progressives.
Trump was a democrat and became a republican for much the same reason. He made it clear in his great speeches about the threat the left poses to Americans.
As for JFK, he was a very good President with rumors swirling about regarding his sexual exploits. But most are rumors. Milford’s testimony could be fiction or maybe not. She certainly did not seem to be as loathsome of JFK as Kathryn Wiley or Juanita Broaddrick were of Clinton.
The problem with these discussions is JFK is not here to defend himself. So why do this? Is this an exercise in who can act as the more raging lynch mob?
Why is this thread even posted? What’s the purpose? We know that Oswald was linked to the CIA. We know this from the recently declassified JFK documents. And who declassified those documents? President Trump did, why? And he’s not done. I believe he’s waiting for the elder Bush to pass before he exposes his role in the Dallas assassination.
So who would want Milford in the news today? There are those in the CIA who want the truth about the JFK assassination to be kept buried. And who hates POTUS today and is hellbent on taking him down? Rogue hybrids in CIA/FBI JTTF. And POTUS likes JFK, likes JFK Jr. and wants the truth out about Dallas. And here we see Milford in the news trying to butt into the conscience of viewers.
Don’t be a fool.
In response to the "if Kennedy were alive today" speculation, I said a couple years ago that if John F. Kennedy were still around, Obama would have recruited him instead of Andy Griffin to do those awful propaganda ads touting the "benefits" of Obamacare. I could totally see a 90+ year old ex-President John F. Kennedy agree to do so, happily and eagerly. And if it was 1963 JFK magically transported by time machine to the 21st century, he would have happily campaigned for Obamacare too. He was ALWAYS a fanboy of enacting a behemoth federal government health care plan. The RATs (and their hero JFK) were just as pro-socialized medicine in the 1960s as they were in the 21st century, and used similar "Republicans won't support our new goverment takeover of the medical industry bill because they're heartless bastards and want people to suffer and die" rhetoric.
Since the Obamacare ad is itself now dated and not in the news, I suppose a more recent example is JFK would be out there right now bashing Trump and promoting the RAT talking points crying about the "separating families at the border" and "ripping innocent children from their parents". JFK's 1960s views on immigration are almost identical to "today's Democrats" -- they basically give lip service about how "the border needs to be secure" and how "people need to come here lawfully or pay the price", then advocate policies that will do the exact opposite: openly promote letting illegal aliens stay here indefinitely for any and all reasons, and constantly push for bills to reward illegal aliens with all kinds of federal government goodies. The only difference in the early 1960s Dems had to play offense and just whine about the Republicans border security policies, while the 21st century Democrats have accomplished their goal of getting this country overrun with millions of illegal alien criminals (the very same types that helped "conservative patriot" JFK steal the election in 1960, BTW, read up on what happened in Texas that year)
Heh. My mom used to say she heard that BS when she went to Catholic grade school in the early 60s. They basically told Catholic kids that they ALL should blindly love Kennedy no matter what he does. One of her most vivid memories was when they stopped school and announced on the intercom for everyone to come to the auditorium, and then told the students that the president had been killed, and everyone broke down in shock and tears.
Seems some of "today's Republicans" who fawn over that corrupt socialist scumbag JFK would be more at home teaching in an early 1960s Catholic school, telling future adults every day about the virtues of the saintly heroic JFK.
So tell me then... why does JFK talk like Bernie Sanders in this clip here (saying European countries are sooo much more "progressive" than us in guaranteeing free medical care for their citizens, and we need to follow their lead), and why are Bernie supporters gushing over his comments?
John F Kennedy argues for universal healthcare
Sure sounds like "today's Democrats" to me. Ronald Reagan would vehemently oppose what JFK said there. But Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez would be cheering it on!
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