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Chuck Yeager weighs in on 'First Man' flap: 'That's not the Neil Armstrong I knew'
The Washington Times ^ | August 31, 2018 | Douglas Ernst

Posted on 08/31/2018 3:06:51 PM PDT by jazusamo

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To: max americana
I'm acquainted with folks who know Yeager, and the arrogant (ab-oral orifice) descriptor is verifiable and correct.

And there's this. Yeager is the SECOND to break the sound barrier, George Welch is the first (as a test pilot, in a diving F-86).

That said, Yeager is a good American, and worthy of respect for his many accomplishments (first to break sound barrier, not withstanding).

61 posted on 08/31/2018 4:03:58 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in-never, never,never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. Winston Churchill)
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To: gaijin

With his record, he has the right to be a perfect a$$hole. He has done more for aviation and the military than 98% of the non-a$$holes in this country.


62 posted on 08/31/2018 4:04:13 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: jazusamo

And I’m just waiting to see the conspiracy folks jump all over this and say “Aha, see they didn’t go to the moon after all!”


63 posted on 08/31/2018 4:06:27 PM PDT by prophetic (Trump is today's DANIEL. Shut the mouth of lions Lord, let his enemies be made the Cat Food instead.)
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To: jazusamo
Done! Couldn't wait to take the Kids to see this. Now, wait for the DVD at the Redbox.

Another shive in the side of American values.

64 posted on 08/31/2018 4:09:37 PM PDT by jaz.357 (Blithering Intellectual.)
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To: DFG

Living of the 12 who walked on the moon:
Buzz Aldrin (88) - Gemini 12, Apollo 11
David Scott (86) - Gemini 8, Apollo 9, Apollo 15
Charles Duke (82) - Apollo 16
Harrison Schmidt (83) - Apollo 17


65 posted on 08/31/2018 4:16:13 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: gaijin

My father was his crew chief while in the Air Force and never mentioned anything about Yeager one way or the other. In any case, Yeager knew Armstrong and Gosling didn’t. One can be both a humble person and a proud American at the same time, which Gosling apparently doesn’t comprehend.


66 posted on 08/31/2018 4:16:38 PM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: gaijin
People on the airshow circuit say that Yeager is actually a total a$shole, BTW.

Most fighter jocks I knew wanted nothing to do with those that weren't pilots. I met quite a few during my tour in Germany from 77-81, when I was stationed at Hahn and Spangdahlem AB's. They found out us Army LT's could give as good as we took.

Most of the time, all it took was hearing about the results of the latest tac eval, where our battery raised the base survivability rating by at least a point. My men knew how to put on a dog and pony show for the evaluation team...lol.

Me? I was down in the Wing CP as the Army Liasion Officer, and unofficial advisor to the Wing Cdr on NBC warfare inputs.

Yeah, maybe Yeager is an a$$hole, but he earned it. Crap, I thought I'd become more patient as I grew older, but that certainly hasn't been the case...and I'm 30 years younger than Chuck.

67 posted on 08/31/2018 4:24:58 PM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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To: gaijin
People on the airshow circuit say that Yeager is actually a total a$shole, BTW.

I have no knowledge about that either way, but certain professions attract certain personalities. I can imagine the personalities that would be attracted to the profession of "test pilot", and I don't think test pilots would be shrinking violets, LOL!

68 posted on 08/31/2018 4:31:38 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Every time a lefty cries "racism", a Trump voter gets his wings.)
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To: rlmorel

CY was ok to my aunt and uncle but they mentioned that he was rather diffident and therefore standoffish. That may be what you experienced.


69 posted on 08/31/2018 4:32:32 PM PDT by pbear8 (the Lord is my light and my salvation)
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To: gaijin

What people? All of them? Which ones? What were their specific complaints?


70 posted on 08/31/2018 4:34:57 PM PDT by djpg
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To: silent_jonny

I agree. Chuck Yeager is at the very TOP in my book. He kept pushing the envelope and proved what could be done. Talk about big brass ones!!!


71 posted on 08/31/2018 4:36:03 PM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: House Atreides; yarddog

From what I heard when I was stationed at Edwards...Yeager is an ass. OTOH, my Dad flew in his squadron and said he was an incredible pilot - the best he ever met. And my Dad wasn’t one to hand out compliments lightly.


72 posted on 08/31/2018 4:38:17 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: mkleesma

What about John Glenn?
Or Buzz Aldrin?

.......................................
What about Alan Shephard? Nobody ever mentions him, yet he was our VERY FIRST to sit on a rocket and wonder if the bloody thing was going to really work. He always gets the short end of the stick, yet he was the one who opened the door for Americans in Space.


73 posted on 08/31/2018 4:40:20 PM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: jazusamo

You have to be a brain-dead moron to expect Hollywood to get anything historically right today. It was bad enough when they just made mistakes. Today, it is all revisionism. The truth is being erased by Hollywood, the news, and the schools, in favor of Marxism.

America is done. Over. Put a fork in her. It is all over but the crying. Trump is a nice speed bump slowing them down. He is a nice rear-guard action preventing the left from chopping us to pieces as we retreat. But that is it. The battle is lost, and we are in full retreat.

Sucks huh? Sounds depressing, huh? Well, I didn’t cause it. Don’t blame me.


74 posted on 08/31/2018 4:40:28 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (End the Mueller Gestapo now. Free the Donald.)
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To: Mr Rogers

Well Yeager is my kind of a-hole, then.


75 posted on 08/31/2018 4:42:01 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Huskrrrr

They are just getting started. Hollywood is going to make Goebbels look like a piker.


76 posted on 08/31/2018 4:42:11 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (End the Mueller Gestapo now. Free the Donald.)
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To: MichaelCorleone

“Failure is not an option!”


77 posted on 08/31/2018 4:42:43 PM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: Seaplaner

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Welch_(pilot)

In his book Aces Wild: The Race for Mach 1 (1998), fellow North American test pilot Al Blackburn speculates that Welch may have broken the sound barrier two weeks before Yeager in an early flight of the XP-86 prototype. Welch himself never made that claim. Blackburn based his contention on interviews of eyewitnesses, former North American employees and access to contemporary historical accounts.Robert Kempel, author of The Race For Mach 1 contradicts the claim, contending it was impossible for Welch’s aircraft to break the sound barrier with an underpowered engine. He notes that the XP-86 airframe was capable of transonic flight, but the interim low-power J35-C-3 limited its performance. The late Bob Hoover, chase pilot for Welch and Yeager, had also disputed the Welch story, stating that Welch was not flying that day because his plane was being repaired.[12] The highest Mach number reached by Welch in 1947, as indicated by official flight test records, was about 0.93, in a maximum power dive from 45,114 ft (13,751 m) with the engine at 100.8-percent Military RPM (i.e. maximum power). North American conducted this test, their “High Mach Number Investigation”, on November 13. The USAF verified all North American results and this test Mach number in their own Phase II tests conducted in December 1947.

By the end of 1947, the XP-86 had logged 29 hours and 23 minutes of flight test time, most flown by Welch.[14] On October 14, 1947, Captain Charles Yeager exceeded Mach 1 in the Bell X-1. The claim of the XP-86 passing Mach 1, with Welch at the controls, was not made until April 26, 1948, five and a half months after the X-1 supersonic flight. Blackburn, however, maintains that a record on the Muroc radar theodolite, of the two flights Welch made on November 13, 1947 indicated supersonic flights, as well, noting 20 minutes before the X-1 broke the record, a sonic boom was heard over the desert, centered on the Happy Bottom Riding Club, dude ranch restaurant and hotel operated by Pancho Barnes.


78 posted on 08/31/2018 4:42:56 PM PDT by DFG
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To: jazusamo

The Apollo space program was first a crash effort to catch up with the Soviet Union’s remarkable success in space. It was a second a statement that free people and capitalism can produce better than communism. Given the political reasons for going, Neil Armstrong’s mission was to plant the American flag on the moon. Science was second.


79 posted on 08/31/2018 4:48:16 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: gaijin; hadaclueonce

I’d been here FIVE YEARS when you arrived, b*tch.
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Obama had been there for EIGHT YEARS when Trump arrived.


80 posted on 08/31/2018 4:49:41 PM PDT by House Atreides (BOYCOTT the NFL, its products and players 100% - PERMANENTL)
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