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A Hurricane intercepts a Messerschmitt during a thrilling Battle of Britain dogfight (TR)
UK Daily Mail ^ | 09/01/2018 | Neil Tweedie

Posted on 09/01/2018 4:44:46 PM PDT by DFG

In the summer sky over rural Dorset, a swirling air battle rages. Supermarine Spitfires and Hawker Hurricanes vie for control of the air with Messerschmitt Me 109s, while Stuka dive-bombers plunge earthward, sirens screeching, to attack shipping off the coast.

There’s a momentary miscalculation – and a Hurricane collides with a 109, slicing it in half.

The stricken fighters spiral to the ground as above them RAF and Luftwaffe pilots, twisting and turning in a desperate mass dogfight, battle on regardless.

This is the Battle of Britain, fought not in 1940 but in the present day – and at a tenth of the true scale.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: chat; fokker; hurricane; messerschmitt; notnews; stuka
Shoot the Fokkers down!


1 posted on 09/01/2018 4:44:46 PM PDT by DFG
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To: DFG

Those fokkers were flying Messerschmitts.


2 posted on 09/01/2018 5:20:57 PM PDT by beethovenfan (I always try to maximize my carbon footprint.)
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To: DFG

Nice story.


3 posted on 09/01/2018 5:44:30 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: beethovenfan

I have the little fokker in my sights.


4 posted on 09/01/2018 6:04:59 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To: DFG

Top picture isn’t a 109. My guess is a 110.


5 posted on 09/01/2018 6:07:06 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: DFG

The hooked crosses representing the Nazi party that were painted on the tails of German warplanes are missing.


6 posted on 09/01/2018 7:07:26 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: DFG

It was the Hurricanes that did the heavy lifting in the Battle of Britain, not the Spitfires. In many respects they were the less capable fighter but the average (read: low time) pilot lacked the skills to access the Spitfire’s superior capabilities. Hurricanes also were cheaper to build (wood & canvas airframes vs all-metal), so the Brits built more of them. In July 1940, the RAF had a total of 527 Hurricanes and 321 Spitfires. They also were faster to turn around, just nine minutes to refuel and re-arm, versus 26 for the Spitfire. And they were less vulnerable when hit and easier to repair. The beauty queen got all the glory but the Hurricanes accounted for 1,593 of the 2,739 Swastikas the RAF claimed in the BoB.


7 posted on 09/01/2018 7:16:42 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: beethovenfan

LOL!


8 posted on 09/01/2018 7:29:30 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: Paal Gulli

Eight .303 MG’s in the wings helped.
Some models had an even better four Browning 50’s.


9 posted on 09/01/2018 9:49:32 PM PDT by alpo (Resist we did.)
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To: beethovenfan
An Me. 110 there in the first photo. The RAF regulated the Hurricane to taking on German bombers as the Me. 109 was too fast and maneuverable for the Hurricane and left the 109 to the "Spits''(Spitfires).
10 posted on 09/01/2018 10:28:21 PM PDT by jmacusa (Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
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To: PAR35

It is.


11 posted on 09/01/2018 10:28:37 PM PDT by jmacusa (Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
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To: jmacusa
The RAF regulated the Hurricane to taking on German bombers as the Me. 109 was too fast and maneuverable for the Hurricane and left the 109 to the "Spits''(Spitfires).
Last Hope Island: Britain, Occupied Europe, and the Brotherhood That Helped Turn the Tide of War

Very interesting discussion of the significant people who fled Europe for Britain as the Nazis were taking control of the continent. Of the crowned head of Europe, only Leopold of Belgium elected to stay on the continent, following the example of his father in WWI. The rest left extremely reluctantly, but they left - bringing substantial financial assets with them which Britain welcomed. During WWO the Germans were not able to capture Leopold’s father, but Leopold was not as fortunate and perforce he became a Nazi puppet. The upshot that the Belgian royalty was the only royal family to come out of WWII with reduced prestige.

De Gaule was a well-known colonel in France, who had the misfortune of being right about the Maginot Line and the tank, when everyone else was wrong. By abandoning France for Britain he became a wanted man to the Vichy government.

All this is by way of introducing a relevant “person” to your point about the Hurricane: the Polish pilot. Polish air force doctrine differed from that of the RAF, and Polish pilots were initially scorned and not used in the Battle of Britain. But under the pressure of the Luftwaffe, the British found themselves in serious need of more pilots - and there were the Poles trained (after their fashion) and pleading for a chance to fight. The upshot was that the British put the Polish pilots in Hurricanes, and the British - and the Germans - soon learned to respect their performance.


12 posted on 09/02/2018 1:27:38 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (Journalism promotes itself - and promotes big government - by speaking ill of society.)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

The Poles were EXTREMELY aggressive fighters, in the air and on the ground. They were out for vengeance when came to the Germans.


13 posted on 09/02/2018 10:17:48 PM PDT by jmacusa (Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
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To: jmacusa

The book I referred to above said that German bomber pilots were known, on some occasions at least, to abandon ship preemptively when they saw the Poles closing in for the kill.


14 posted on 09/03/2018 6:54:46 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (Journalism promotes itself - and promotes big government - by speaking ill of society.)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

I wouldn’t doubt. In the hell that was Monte Cassino it was the Poles who finally took the abbey. I’m sure they gave little quarter to the Germans.


15 posted on 09/03/2018 8:38:38 AM PDT by jmacusa (Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
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To: jmacusa
The Poles were EXTREMELY aggressive fighters, in the air and on the ground. They were out for vengeance when came to the Germans.

One of my all-time favorite movie scenes....

"Repeat, please! (From 'The Battle of Britain')

16 posted on 09/03/2018 8:40:50 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator

LOL! Yeah, Stosh and the boys couldn’t give a hoot for discipline. Tally ho!


17 posted on 09/03/2018 8:46:46 AM PDT by jmacusa (Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
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