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Editorial: Don't blame homosexuality for Catholic church sex abuse
Boulder Daily Camera ^ | 9/2/18 | Quentin Young

Posted on 09/02/2018 10:22:01 AM PDT by madprof98

What led the church to where it is today was unspeakable crimes and institutional cover-ups. At a moment when unqualified humility would seem the only possible response available to leaders of the Catholic faith, they instead choose to engage in the scurrilous scapegoating of innocent gay people. They demonstrate an unwillingness to accept full responsibility and a breathtaking absence of decency. Abuse in the church occurred not because of homosexuality but because church leaders created safe spaces for predators. Some of the abusers might have been gay. So what? Psychologists say pedophiles are sexually aroused not by gender but by youth, and homosexuality does not make people more likely to abuse others, as studies have shown. Some of the victims in Pennsylvania were girls.

When priests tell church members that homosexuality is a bar to Heaven, that's ultimately a spiritual matter the faithful must work out for themselves, but when church officials charge that homosexuality causes outrages in communities here on Earth, the discussion becomes a concern for believers and non-believers alike. Whether for spiritual or humane principles, the reaction from within and without the church must be to categorically reject such hateful messages.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: catholic; homosexualagenda
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To: Pollster1

The Pennsylvania Grand Jury report refuses to identify the breakdown of male and female victims. They have all the identities, since they said they identified over 1,000 victims, and believe there could be thousands more they cannot identify.

The Pennsylvania AG is being politically correct. He won’t identify the breakdown so we can’t confirm it was largely homosexual priests. Jerk.


101 posted on 09/02/2018 2:36:37 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (End the Mueller Gestapo now. Free the Donald.)
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To: bert
And add to that mix the confessional.

Homosexual priests can inquire about sexual feelings of young boys I presume.

Talk about insight and power.

This is the most powerful way to "groom" a kid that I can imagine.

102 posted on 09/02/2018 2:48:45 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: madprof98
Don't blame homosexuality for Catholic church sex abuse..."

Yikes! At 85 I thought I'd heard every possible absurdity...

103 posted on 09/02/2018 2:49:47 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: madprof98

Interesting, especially in light of the recent focus on the thousands of children sexually violated by clergy. Most were boys, something around 90% were boys, and all of the perpetrators of the boys were homosexual clergy - priests.

The elephant in the room is that the homosexual community has infested the RC clergy. It is a huge number. But our modern society is protecting the gay lifestyle. If you say a word about them, you are publicly labelled homophobic. And when that happens public figures such as politicians, government people at any level, owners of a successful businesses, etc. have their careers ruined.

Watch carefully, you will see there will be a full court press to make the homosexual pedophiles, the victims. Honesty about homosexuals is forbidden.


104 posted on 09/02/2018 2:51:48 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said theoal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: RoosterRedux
Homosexual priests can inquire about sexual feelings of young boys I presume.

That's not how Confession works.

105 posted on 09/02/2018 2:56:31 PM PDT by papertyger (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pNImbXnIn4&index=24&list=WL&t=427s)
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To: madprof98

No one is blaming innocent homosexuals.


106 posted on 09/02/2018 3:31:23 PM PDT by Gumdrop
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

Went to an all boys Catholic HS 1950-1954
Graduating classes of over 1000

Word definitely gets a around about things
Several known drunks BUT I can’t remember any rumors about homosexual priests


107 posted on 09/02/2018 3:36:22 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: papertyger
How does it work with a predatory priest?

Seriously.

I am not anti-Catholic. Quite the contrary.

108 posted on 09/02/2018 3:47:36 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: madprof98
Psychologists say pedophiles are sexually aroused not by gender but by youth, and homosexuality does not make people more likely to abuse others, as studies have shown.

First of all, the psychology and psychiatric community caved to the homo movement quite a while ago, when they removed homosexuality from the DSM.

When they did so, they lost all credibility re: this matter.

109 posted on 09/02/2018 3:54:27 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux

The caved circa 1975.


110 posted on 09/02/2018 3:56:46 PM PDT by Reily
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To: Reily

Yep. The APA removed it in 1973.


111 posted on 09/02/2018 3:58:34 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: madprof98
After reading the comments, I am disgusted with some of the Freepers here.

To those who claim the RC church has some sort of monopoly on this type of deviation, is preposterous. In my lifetime I saw the beginning of outright disrespect for all traditional morality during the 1960's when the free-love movement went crazy and the hippies and drug culture was rampant. it was glamorized by Hollywood and the music industry.

So it infected all churches and organizations. When Vatican II took place it seemed like an open door for liberalism to infect the church. The homosexual infiltration of the priesthood was already a problem, and it seemed to metastasize after that. Although the hierarchy has, like all huge organizations, covered up for wrongdoing, it is true that the majority of abuse was male on male and directed toward teenage boys or young seminarians who were under the authority of a more senior cleric. Thus these were just as much crimes as the underage boys - but not so egregious as that with minor boys [or girls -which was rarer] who are even more vulnerable. The ridiculous statement by Cardinal Cupich about the more important concerns of the church are climate change & helping illegal immigrants, tells us that he is nothing more than a leftist stooge, and that Christian faith in Jesus comes second to these people. We are called to be a holy people, not 'liberal people or conservative people'. God will not be mocked and Jesus Christ is the Way, the Truth, and the Life.

112 posted on 09/02/2018 3:58:57 PM PDT by Gumdrop
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To: RoosterRedux

Oh no. I didn’t mean to imply you were.

It’s just that confessing isn’t normally counseling. I suppose a corrupt priest could use it to qualify targets, though.


113 posted on 09/02/2018 4:06:39 PM PDT by papertyger (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pNImbXnIn4&index=24&list=WL&t=427s)
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To: papertyger
I suppose a corrupt priest could use it to qualify targets, though.

Yep. That was what I was thinking of.

A homosexual priest could have vast power over a vulnerable, sexually-confused boy.

114 posted on 09/02/2018 4:13:32 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: Ouderkirk

The spirit of homosexuality? The demon of homosexuality? The Specter of homosexuality? We fight against unclean spirits. We fight against familiar spirits.


115 posted on 09/02/2018 4:14:30 PM PDT by Clutch Martin (The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.)
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To: madprof98

Until the Church busts all of the queer priests out of the priesthood, the problem will continue. They have also got to keep all of them out of the seminaries. Until they do, the problem will continue. This Pope must face this and proclaim the same.


116 posted on 09/02/2018 4:37:06 PM PDT by maxwellsmart_agent (.)
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To: madprof98

Bull Feces. Children and young adults were served up on a platter to the pc Cabal... homosexuality not only accounted for 2/3 of the abuse.. but preventing its wxpisure was the main driver for covering up all of it.

Until the Church is honest about those nothing will change. We’ll be right back here in another decade or two.

Protecting the homosexual Cabal was why NO investigation into sexual impropriety of the church is allowed. If your son and daughters life is destroyed to protect it.. too bad.


117 posted on 09/02/2018 4:40:32 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: madprof98

As far as I know, most of the abuses were of teenage boys, lending credence to the idea that a certain subset of gay men who are fond of teenagers — such are known as ephebophiles — entered the priesthood and then carefully forgot about such ideas as “age of consent”, “statutory rape”, etc.


118 posted on 09/02/2018 4:44:33 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks ( The US Constitution ....... Invented by geniuses and God .... Administered by morons ......)
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To: nonsporting

Actually, given all the covering up, it would still exist, albeit at a much lower number of cases. Some people are simply monsters.


119 posted on 09/02/2018 4:45:57 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks ( The US Constitution ....... Invented by geniuses and God .... Administered by morons ......)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Gay bunga bunga in the Vatican?


120 posted on 09/02/2018 4:48:21 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks ( The US Constitution ....... Invented by geniuses and God .... Administered by morons ......)
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