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Before you bring out a violin, please note: Bureau of Economic Analysis data show that in 2016, federal government workers had average total compensation — wages, benefits, vacation, etc. — of $127,259 a year. For the private sector, it's just $70,764. So federal workers make 80% more than private ones, an absurd and unsustainable gap. As recently as 1990, the difference was just 30%.
1 posted on 09/03/2018 2:02:22 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Sadly Trump has said he might reconsider. Pitiful. I figure if government workers drop their unions they will get more than the pending pay raise.

Equal pay? It is impossible unless truly equal pay for equal work. Statistically men work longer hours, often more productive. Men don't take time off for maternity leave and children. Facts. Generally speaking, women will not reach 10,000 hours of actual work, for example, before men, why should they expect the same pay? When actual hours worked are equal, when productivity is equal, pay them the same. Unless there is blatant discrimination, let the market set the price.

2 posted on 09/03/2018 2:10:23 PM PDT by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!y)
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Why should government employees be any different?

Because they reliably vote Democrat.

3 posted on 09/03/2018 2:10:58 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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Back in the 50s and 60s federal workers earned less but got better benefits plus had a retirement fund that was way better. People made choices.

Since then federal workers have made way more still had great benefits. Their whining doesn’t bother me at all


4 posted on 09/03/2018 2:13:29 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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"Cutting federal pay is not the way to run the best government possible

Nobody is cutting federal pay, he's merely denying an auto increase that I was subjected to on occasions during my 35 years of employment with my company.....

7 posted on 09/03/2018 2:16:22 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (I once found a needle in a haystack but it wasn't the one I was looking for...)
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They’re lucky he’s not firing 20-30% of them.


8 posted on 09/03/2018 2:16:42 PM PDT by JPJones (More tariffs, less income tax.)
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Unless, that is, Congress rejects his move.

Count on it.

10 posted on 09/03/2018 2:21:01 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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Think about something else..

PDT can let this run its course, let the LIBs ‘slap him around’ and on Halloween, rescind the order, give SS a raise and pick up a few R votes two weeks later in the process.

I don’t think this man goes to the can without figuring his next move.

Typical SUCCESSFUL business man, a pol has to ‘test the wind first’...


11 posted on 09/03/2018 2:27:18 PM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98)""Just because I keep saying WOW doesn't mean you are great!!")
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How about making it easier - or, at least possible - to fire incompetent federal workers. This career path is a Gravy Train for dolts and time servers.


14 posted on 09/03/2018 2:32:33 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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Why on earth would someone whose doesn’t build something of value, and whose salary is extracted from the portion of society that does, even get paid EQUAL to a private sector worker who just want to go to work and mind his own business?


16 posted on 09/03/2018 2:37:37 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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Government employment is a lifetime sinecure if one so chooses.


17 posted on 09/03/2018 2:42:46 PM PDT by Bookshelf
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I would love to see the government means test disability recipients. Add in a rule that a person making over a certain amount is not eligible to receive SS, being the USSC has ruled that it is “welfare”. Turn around then and raise the bottom of the payments up to $1,500-$2K per month, but only for those who have earned their way in first, not the non-workers who draw pay, and have never worked. There are many women who abstained from welfare while raising children without a spouse, who made very little money for years. Hence only a $700 check each month. Republicans must have an answer for the Dims idea of minimum income for all. Make it a decent level of benefit after the work life is over at least. It will sell, and it MUST be done. Sometimes you have to purchase votes, and this is a great way to support the elderly and the truly handicapped.


18 posted on 09/03/2018 2:44:07 PM PDT by Glad2bnuts (If Republicans are not prepared to carry on the Revolution of 1776, prepare for a communist takeover)
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Whatta bout equal lack of pay for equal lack of working?


21 posted on 09/03/2018 2:53:19 PM PDT by Paladin2
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Why Not Equal Pay For Equal Work?

I think the females in government, the media and entertainment industries would raise hell about having their pay cut.


24 posted on 09/03/2018 3:07:47 PM PDT by Vlad The Inhaler
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“And it’s equally difficult to tell whether a federal worker is productive. How do you measure a bureaucrat’s output?”

How “productive” do you want your bureaucrats to be?


25 posted on 09/03/2018 3:11:37 PM PDT by sitetest (No longer mostly dead.)
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“So federal workers make 80% more than private ones, an absurd and unsustainable gap.”

And the bigger issue is there are about three times as many of them as there needs to be. 80% higher compensation for 67% less work.


26 posted on 09/03/2018 3:11:42 PM PDT by vette6387
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How can you prove equal work? on a production line, where you can count the products made? Everywhere else, the protected class members will demand equal pay for less work.


28 posted on 09/03/2018 3:17:19 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Cynicism is the only refuge in a world that is determined to eliminate itself.)
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Cut the pay and cut the people. Government adds nothing to GNP. It is a parasite that eats off the private sector.


29 posted on 09/03/2018 3:19:07 PM PDT by mulligan (EeThe)
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Equal pay for equal work is so invalidated in so many ways. Easiest to see if locality pay. Its the way politicians keep federal employees outside of major cities poor like D.C. poor. Crushing poor states economies and not paying fair retirement benefits.


30 posted on 09/03/2018 3:36:10 PM PDT by Retvet (Retvet)
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Best way to fix equal pay for equal work is, make all politicians wages the average wages of the area they represent.


31 posted on 09/03/2018 3:38:40 PM PDT by Retvet (Retvet)
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SeekAndFind wrote: “Before you bring out a violin, please note: Bureau of Economic Analysis data show that in 2016, federal government workers had average total compensation — wages, benefits, vacation, etc. — of $127,259 a year. For the private sector, it’s just $70,764. So federal workers make 80% more than private ones, an absurd and unsustainable gap. As recently as 1990, the difference was just 30%.”

Completely irrelevant. The skills and experience are remarkably different in the private sector. For example, those average private sector workers include workers at McDonalds and Walmart. The federal government includes very few fry cooks or grocery checkers. Now compare mid-career engineers in both fields.


32 posted on 09/03/2018 3:47:50 PM PDT by DugwayDuke ("A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest")
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