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To: roadcat
I get the point that you are trying to make... Apple good... Samsung bad. But, if you dig just a little deeper into the links that you provided and the Google search that you suggested the picture that comes into focus is completely different than what you intend.

For instance the article that you linked to from China Daily, “Samsung to focus on advanced manufacturing in China” from July 2016 states that Samsung intended to invest $240 million on factories in China. While the Google search you suggested comes up with a Reuters story from July of 2017 that said that Samsung was investing $18.6 BILLION on South Korea to “extend its lead in memory chips and next-generation smartphone displays, in a plan that promises to create almost half a million jobs.” https://www.reuters.com/article/us-samsung-elec-chips/samsung-plans-18-6-billion-south-korea-investment-to-widen-chip-lead-idUSKBN19P06T

So yes Samsung has large investments in China. But from these two articles from your link and your suggestion... Samsung has just invested $18.6 Billion in South Korea investments vs $240 Million in China. This favors South Korean investments by 77.5 to 1 and does not support your Apple fan boy contention that “Most of Samsung’s products are made in China by Samsung owned factories.”

I am sorry but the other article you linked to: An Investigation of Eight Samsung Factories in China, Is Samsung Infringing Upon Apple’s Patent to Bully Workers? from the headline on down also does not do a very good job of making your point... Apple good... Samsung bad. The truth is I really do not care. Samsung is a South Korean based multinational which INDESPUTABLY invests vastly more of its capital expenditures in South Korea than in other countries. Apple is an American company now worth over $1 Trillion dollars which INDESPUTABLY invests vastly more of its capital expenditures OUTSIDE of America than in America.

Wouldn't it be something if Apple decided to invest $18.6 Billion dollars in America and create half a million jobs in here? Well I wouldn't hold my breath, history shows that patriotism has not been something important to Apple or very many of their their customers.

Trying to divert the negative perception of Apple for doing this by pointing the finger at Samsung is farcical at best and makes you sound like a fool. President Trump rightly pointed the finger at Apple... they are the perfect example of an American company that has outsourced almost all of their production and jobs to other countries. Their policies have truly been despicable. And you trying to mislead others about this is truly despicable as well.

44 posted on 09/09/2018 9:08:59 AM PDT by fireman15
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To: fireman15

“And you trying to mislead others about this is truly despicable as well.”

There you go with the insults. A mark of someone being hypocritical and trying to mislead others, shameful of you. I said you should google about Samsung’s investments in China. The single link that I previously posted is a mere blip in the investments of Samsung in China, yet you refer to the money they invested for some factories that year ($240 million) as if it is their total investment, not so.

Samsung directly employs thousands of Chinese workers in those factories, Apple employs none, yet you ignore that fact. And, Samsung also was employing North Koreans in some of their Chinese factories. President Trump signed an executive order last year forbidding imports made from North Koreans, so Samsung had to scramble in order to be in compliance. Apple does not rely solely on iphones assembled in China; they’ve made them in Brazil, India and other places. They can be assembled anywhere, and Apple is ramping up to try to assemble them in Wisconsin. They did so in Brazil for some years but scaled back due to problems there. Here’s a link about them ramping up to assemble in India.

https://www.indiatoday.in/technology/news/story/apple-starts-selling-made-in-india-iphone-se-978529-2017-05-22

Here is another older link about how the iphone is an American phone, despite being assembled in China. You won’t find a description about Samsung being American, no sir. And more of Apple products are made in America since this article.

https://financesonline.com/hello-world-the-economics-of-iphone/

“iPhone is a genuine American product because its engineering and design are borne out of the ingenuity and skill of American developers and industrial designers in Cupertino, California, Apple’s headquarters...”

“Beyond the planning stage, iPhone 5 is still being made in America. Its brain, the A6 chip, is manufactured by a semiconductor company based in the US, perhaps an Intel or IBM plant or even a Samsung American subsidiary in Austin, Texas. The smartphone may be made from different countries, but it thinks as an American like you and me.”

“The software is also designed locally and a $500-million data center was even built in North Carolina. The radio frequency part is made by Ohio-based Triquint, the audio chip by Cirrus Logic, a Texan company and the controller chips by California-based PMC Sierra and Broadcom Corp. Evidently, the specialized parts and design are American, making the iPhone a first-rate, cutting edge product. Interestingly, the glass is developed and manufactured by a Corning plant in Kentucky, although the bulk of manufacturing has since been shipped out to the company’s plants in Japan and Taiwan.”

“The technical specifications aside, iPhone creates local derivative economies around it: its innovative marketing is handled by TBWA with offices in Los Angeles and New York, and its apps are written by American software companies. Apple is also one of the few companies that maintains a US-based local customer call center in Indiana, Texas and California to name a few.”


53 posted on 09/09/2018 12:04:23 PM PDT by roadcat
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