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To: John W; Fai Mao; virgil; JonPreston; healy61; Spacetrucker; sickoflibs; Bonemaker; Howie66; ...
"...I’d say the trail leads to Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama without question..."

Unfortunately, I think that John W's short post is 100% true, and the unfortunate this is not that it leads to them, anyone who has closely followed their existence up to and into the government knows they are corrupt as the day is long.

The unfortunate thing is that Obama and Hillary are likely considered untouchable, especially Obama. To me, that is a terrible thing to convey to the citizens of the Republic.

It is exemplified by a young sailor who gets thrown in prison for taking a selfie in a submarine, but a woman who is head of the State Department can intentionally and willfully break the law resulting in the deaths of real people (western intelligence assets in China arrested/disappeared) because she wanted an insecure, unauthorized server to avoid FOIA requests that would reveal information about the Clinton Foundation.

And a President who willfully and knowingly violated the law by communicating with an alias to that same Email server (I believe they have 13 emails under an alias known to be his.)

They will be considered too big to fry. They will never be brought to task, and we will have to settle for the scalps of underlings such as McCabe, Brennan, and others:

FBI Departures:

DOJ Departures:

This is not a inconsequential list, and does not include people like John Brennan or other people in the CIA or NSA who may be flushed out and eventually punished.

I do hold out hope for this, and admit, I am optimistic about this. I don't love this. I hate and despise it, but I hate and despise more the people who have brought us to this point. And I fully believe it isn't just the Left, either.

There are a lot of people on all sides with vested interests in The Gravy Train who are willing to betray their country.

23 posted on 09/13/2018 5:26:19 AM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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To: rlmorel
This is not a inconsequential list

Two things about the list; 1) most of these people should have been put in front of a grand jury, and 2) they have been replaced by fellow Deep Staters, thus allowing the Swamp to remain just as murky and fetid as ever.

In the end I see the establishment Rs like Sessions being as big a problem to DJT and #MAGA as the socialist Ds.

30 posted on 09/13/2018 5:35:49 AM PDT by JonPreston
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To: rlmorel

“..This is not a inconsequential list,..”

Thats quite a list. Yet not a ONE of them has been tried and prosecuted.

Yes, they may have resigned or been fired, but then they go on to big $$$ jobs elsewhere.

Win/Win for THEM.


49 posted on 09/13/2018 5:58:01 AM PDT by joethedrummer
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To: rlmorel

They still walk FREE and many still hold Security Clearances.

Does anybody aside from myself see anything wrong with that picture?


51 posted on 09/13/2018 6:01:48 AM PDT by Howie66 ("...Against All Enemies, Foreign and Democrat.....")
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To: rlmorel

At best, .....

Comrade Hellary will be indicted for violating Espionage Act with her illegal private server(s).

Mullah Hussein44 will be named as an “unindicted co-conspirator”.

Alas, both will never serve time behind bars.


58 posted on 09/13/2018 6:13:08 AM PDT by newfreep ("INSIDE EVERY PROGRESSIVE IS A TOTALITARIAN SCREAMING TO GET OUT" @HOROWITZ39, DAVID HOROWITZ)
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To: rlmorel
I like your posts as they are generally well reasoned and informative. But, you definitely have an Eeyore streak that could perhaps take benefit from some remedial action. Here's a suggestion: read some books on the 80 years war, the English civil war, the French revolution, the Reformation wars, etc.

What you will discover is that even a horror show like WWI is pretty small potatoes compared to large scale civil revolts. In these cases, and many, many others, it's not uncommon to have in excess of 10% of the population suffer casualties.

Now, what you are apparently suggesting is that Trump is unaware of these historical events, or is sufficiently shallow as to dismiss their importance or relevance to our current situation. That is, if the top level conspirators were to escape justice, then the leftist ideals they express ie confiscating wealth, regulating behavior & ambition, and dictating control, would remain viable.

That in turn sets up an environment for future conflicts, where patriots are literally fighting for their lives as the country falls into civil war. A situation like that of course then leads to an opportunity for China and/or Russia to then make a move while the country is embroiled and weakened.

Think about it - I'm sure Trump does. What's the solution - both the most effective and easiest to accomplish (at this particular point in time)? That's right, drain the swamp, clear out the deep state, and prosecute the evil doers who engineering and executed this treason.

What's the downside? Civil unrest? To what extent - could it even come close to what will surely occur at some future date if the problems are yanked out by their roots today?

Once you reach that conclusion, then it necessarily follows that Trump figured it out some time ago. After all, it's why he ran; he didn't do it for shits & giggles. He is going to be regarded as a titan of history. He was on this long before most, and actually made it happen, while you and many others merely worry/complain over a nice cup a coffee while typing on a screen.

59 posted on 09/13/2018 6:13:20 AM PDT by semantic
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To: rlmorel
RE:”The unfortunate thing is that Obama and Hillary are likely considered untouchable, especially Obama. To me, that is a terrible thing to convey to the citizens of the Republic”

This is not surprising.

Current administrations don't prosecute the previous ones because they know that some day the other party will be in power (Justice department) and will then use it to get revenge.

Trump talks about jailing crooked Hillary at rallies but was no doubt warned about the risks of doing so.

Also Jeff Sessions has effectively given up the justice department to Hillary and Obama.

73 posted on 09/13/2018 6:59:34 AM PDT by sickoflibs ('Equal protection' only applies to illegals not you!)
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To: rlmorel

“There are a lot of people on all sides with vested interests in The Gravy Train who are willing to betray their country.”

Always remember that our country’s worst domestic enemies are calling themselves “deeply patriotic”.

I say we start calling them Confederates. All the time.


104 posted on 09/13/2018 8:13:22 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs
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