[grey_whiskers]

Fifty Shades of Lame shows that a LOT of women fantasize about this; I've read some of the pickup artists making fun of the MGTOW crowd, and then turning around and complaining about how depraved the sexual appetites are nowadays, of the mere-college-age-girls.

I think it's partly generational: things have gone downhill since I was a young dragon.

[ronniesgal]

i’m not into FSOG . I think men think women fantasize about being held down against their will. But thats just me. I am sure you have different views on what is “ok” to do to a woman.